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10:41 pdurbin
j-n-c: thanks for fixing that typo
10:43 j-n-c
no problem. thak You for the feedback ;)
10:44 pdurbin
Sure. Do you think we should go ahead and move it to QA? The section about installing Sphinx suggests installing it as root, which isn't necessary. I know you didn't add this. We could always improve this section later.
11:23 pdurbin
I went ahead and move it to QA.
11:25 pdurbin
moved*
11:27 j-n-c
Ok
11:30 pdurbin
The intern who wrote that was on Ubuntu. There is no "root" on Windows. :)
11:30 pdurbin
Well, maybe there is these days. Times are changing.
11:30 pdurbin
But we can revisit that in the future.
11:31 pdurbin
At the moment I'm more interested in helping people make doc contributions through the GitHub web interface.
11:46 j-n-c
Fair enough
11:46 pdurbin
Have you installed Sphinx?
11:47 j-n-c
Has anyone ever complained about the absence of a procedure for Windows?
11:47 j-n-c
not yet. But I probably will
11:48 pdurbin
Ok. Are you on Windows, Mac, or Linux?
11:48 j-n-c
Linux. Ubuntu
11:49 pdurbin
Ok. I think you'll be able to just apt-get install a version of Sphinx that's new enough.
11:49 j-n-c
ok. thks!
11:51 j-n-c
are you concerned about the installation on Mac or Red Hat Linux? Or it should be as straight forward as in a Debian Based Linux Distro
11:55 pdurbin
Well, I assume that most people who could contribute to the guides but haven't yet are on Windows. Then Mac, then Linux.
12:41 pdurbin
Cool, 5 installation of Dataverse have created boards at https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects
12:42 pdurbin
andrewSC bricas_ juancorr: please feel free to create one for your installation.
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13:07 donsizemore
@j-n-c I started peppering the Ansible role with calls for Debian/Ubuntu... pull requests welcome!
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13:14 j-n-c
donsizemore: Which file(s) have You worked on?
13:14 donsizemore
@j-n-c regarding the dataverse-ansible role, i'm the perp
13:34 pdurbin
donsizemore: mornin. As usual, I feel like I've asked you to do a dozen things at once for Dataverse. How are you holding up? :)
13:35 pdurbin
poikilotherm: that call on Friday was fun. Should we type up some notes?
13:37 donsizemore
@pdurbin oh, i'm fine. i picked up where i left off on friday =)
13:38 pdurbin
Right but where are we? Where am I?
13:39 donsizemore
You're very near Dumpling House. and the soon-to-open Wachusett Brewing Company
13:40 donsizemore
I'm trying to find the right flag and arg incantation to make glassfish-setup.sh expand shell aliases within an Ansible task.
13:41 pdurbin
Berkshire Brewing Company was a sponsor of an outdoor concert we went to on Saturday (where we took the kids up on a tethered hot air balloon ride): https://www.greenriverfestival.com
13:43 pdurbin
my face as we left the ground: https://i.imgur.com/yAW4Vil.jpg
13:45 poikilotherm
pdurbin: to quote djbrooke: "That's helpfull!" :-D
13:46 pdurbin
heh
13:46 pdurbin
It was helpful. :)
13:48 pdurbin
donsizemore: I'm setting counter enable true for the first time in quite a while. Hope it works. :)
13:48 poikilotherm
pdurbin: that photo is awesome :-d
13:48 pdurbin
:)
13:48 pdurbin
I put a video on YouTube too if that's of interest.
13:49 pdurbin
poikilotherm: the phone call was great but not SLOPI. Is that a problem?
13:49 poikilotherm
I was wondering why Danny made the invitation private... It could have been SLOPI
13:49 donsizemore
@pdurbin i think i most identify with... is that your younger daughter? clinging to the basket support for dear life
13:50 poikilotherm
Maybe we should ask him if we may do this SLOPI in the future and spread the word about the results
13:51 pdurbin
donsizemore: yeah, two kids, both girls. You should see her face on the log flume at Santa's Village a few years back.
13:52 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I have no idea either. What would be a good way to make the next cal SLOPI? I assume there will be more calls.
13:54 poikilotherm
That gotomeeting thing is capable to let more users join, right?
13:54 poikilotherm
So maybe we could at least invite (after coordinating the main actors) others to join in
13:55 pdurbin
Sounds fine. Did you record it?
13:55 poikilotherm
I dunno if announcing a recording might be helpfull
13:55 poikilotherm
Nope
13:55 pdurbin
me neither
13:55 poikilotherm
I would have asked for permissions to do so
13:55 pdurbin
yeah, me too
13:55 poikilotherm
Otherwise at least in EU it would be illegal
13:56 pdurbin
ok
13:56 poikilotherm
And it's no good style, right?
13:57 pdurbin
right
13:57 poikilotherm
I can try to remember some things to make some notes
13:58 pdurbin
I think some notes would be great. Should we start a Google doc or something?
13:58 poikilotherm
Most was explaining the content of #5974 again ;-)
13:59 poikilotherm
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5974
14:01 poikilotherm
I wonder if this issue should be refactored
14:01 poikilotherm
Maybe some things need better explanation
14:02 pdurbin
Maybe. I feel like I understood a lot better after talking about it for half an hour.
14:02 poikilotherm
But I'm not sure how to start that...
14:02 pdurbin
One approach I sometimes like is what I call "documentation driven development". We **could** stub out some pages in the guides to explain what the feature is.
14:02 poikilotherm
Well, creating text that is explaining stuff you need half an hour to understand in about 1000 words is though...
14:03 poikilotherm
Yeah, DDD
14:03 pdurbin
donsizemore: that reminds me. You'll also hacking on the shib page, right?
14:04 pdurbin
shib docs, I mean
14:04 poikilotherm
We tried that once and it didn't work out very well. But those days we hadn't sth. that was interesting for "upper managment" or as Danny said "that's helpfull"
14:04 pdurbin
Did we? For what feature?
14:04 poikilotherm
Err
14:04 poikilotherm
I think it was about timers
14:04 poikilotherm
Making them non-persistant
14:05 poikilotherm
Still an open issue, stopped hacking on it to go ahead with things more needed to get into prod
14:05 pdurbin
oh, yeah no one cares about that but us :)
14:05 pdurbin
I used DDD with Make Data Count. The new problem is that no one reads what you write. :)
14:06 pdurbin
But someone will eventually read it when the feature ships.
14:06 pdurbin
So I don't see it as a waste of time.
14:06 pdurbin
I think it helps clarify my thinking.
14:07 pdurbin
But I'm more of a writer than a talker.
14:08 poikilotherm
I enjoy doing both at the same time, like many engineers do it. Gimme a pen and paper to think on.
14:08 * pdurbin
hands poikilotherm pen and paper
14:10 poikilotherm
Thx. I would need a live stream to show you what I'm drawing...
14:11 pdurbin
I can wait. :)
14:11 pdurbin
I'm working on the UI for Make Data Count.
14:11 pdurbin
Display Make Data Count use and citation metrics #5253 - https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5253
14:18 donsizemore
Odum is hiring https://unc.peopleadmin.com/postings/165996
14:19 pdurbin
donsizemore: have you considered posting it to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dataverse-dev and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dataverse-community ?
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17:01 pdurbin
xarthisius: I just opened https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub/issues/900
17:01 pdurbin
What does everybody think? Does that issue look ok? I'm glad it's a nice round number. :)
17:57 pdurbin
Easy to remember. :)
18:56 pdurbin
donsizemore: I didn't know it's possible to re-use the same branch for multiple pull requests. Reduce, reuse, recycle, I guess. :) I'm looking at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible/pull/89
19:09 donsizemore
who knows what my ineptitude may discover next!
19:09 pdurbin
heh
19:09 donsizemore
(i'll bump to 4.15.1 once you bless #89?)
19:10 pdurbin
oh, also, there's the branch to add the ec2 spin up script to that repo
19:10 donsizemore
oh oh yes yes i'll do that
19:15 pdurbin
donsizemore: so the idea is that if it works for rserve, it'll work for datacite?
19:16 pdurbin
(or other doi providers like ezid)
19:22 donsizemore
the password stuff? yes it should
19:23 pdurbin
ok, I'm not planning on testing any doi providers
19:24 pdurbin
but R stuff is compiling away :)
19:24 pdurbin
someone should tell the R people that binaries are a thing
19:24 * pdurbin
takes a step back
19:25 donsizemore
the problem was that, even specifying an executable in ansible and launching glassfish-setup.sh with --interactive in a branch, the alias bits weren't expanding
19:38 pdurbin
donsizemore: the bar graphs are gone. :( Did I do something wrong?
19:39 donsizemore
poop. send me your .pem?
19:41 pdurbin
donsizemore: sent
19:42 pdurbin
From my perspective I'm fine on waiting for this until after we have https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible/issues/53 about valid SSL certs because I have to do some manual steps right now.
