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10:44 pdurbin skay: I put "related projects" in the intro: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/latest/developers
10:44 pdurbin TwoRavens, etc.
10:44 pdurbin bencomp: not that you asked for this exactly
10:47 bencomp pdurbin: it doesn't hurt :)
10:47 pdurbin that's what I figured :)
11:03 pdurbin bencomp: a lot of your questions/suggestions seem to be about what to expect from IQSS
11:04 pdurbin I guess I'm wondering if you're getting what you need, in general.
11:10 pdurbin bencomp: maybe you can tell me what you *want* the answers to all those IQSS questions to be. :)
11:10 pdurbin (but no promises!) :)
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12:29 bencomp pdurbin: sorry, still busy, or rather busy again, finding a place to stay for the meeting
12:31 pdurbin that's rather important
12:33 bencomp and expensive
13:29 pdurbin yeah
13:37 pdurbin thinking about going to this: https://twitter.com/jamesdotcuff/status/596522681819930626
13:38 pdurbin "Is the scholarly article still fit for its purpose in this data-driven world, with new interdisciplinary methodologies and increasing automation?"
14:04 pdurbin talk starting soon. by https://twitter.com/MarkHahnel
14:10 pdurbin 9 GB of data in his PhD (stem cell research)
14:11 pdurbin 3 petabytes of data every year that goes nowhere
14:14 pdurbin heh. mention of this DNS problem: http://crosstech.crossref.org/2015/01/problems-with-dx-doi-org-on-january-20th-2015-what-we-know.html
14:15 pdurbin mention of http://dash.harvard.edu
14:16 pdurbin mention of http://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2015/may/12/will-traditional-science-journals-disappear
14:17 pdurbin $10 million per year: amount Harvard spends per year on serials
14:18 pdurbin showing graphs from http://figshare.com/articles/Growth_of_Open_Access_Major_Publishers/650799
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14:22 pdurbin mention of The Fourth Paradigm: Data-Intensive Scientific Discovery - Microsoft Research - http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/fourthparadigm/
14:28 pdurbin "continuing growth of open access both in number of opportunities and in scale, the publication of data and objects (like multimedia, application code, etc.)" http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2015/01/29/ask-the-chefs-what-do-you-think-will-have-the-biggest-impact-on-scholarly-publishing-in-2015/
14:39 pdurbin mention of Data Citation Index - http://thomsonreuters.com/en/products-services/scholarly-scientific-research/scholarly-search-and-discovery/data-citation-index.html
14:47 pdurbin mention of http://datafairport.org
14:50 pdurbin showing https://plot.ly ... "this is where we need to get to"
14:51 pdurbin mention of http://www.riffyn.com
14:54 pdurbin "APIs are essential"
15:00 pdurbin Daniel Bilar on Twitter: "Gold standard in open research: 200GB of data / 20k LoC for all in #usenix paper https://t.co/aN4PVvxcj7 [eg Fig. 11 https://t.co/oUvd4GI4sI" - https://twitter.com/daniel_bilar/status/596768242238033920
15:00 pdurbin Queues Don’t Matter When You Can JUMP Them! | USENIX - https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi15/technical-sessions/presentation/grosvenor
15:01 pdurbin very nice but the question is if the HTML version will be maintained over time
15:03 pdurbin jeffspies_ LyndsySimon: he's talkin' about CoS :)
15:03 pdurbin the cool stuff you're doing
15:04 pdurbin open peer review coming from zenodo
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15:18 pdurbin mention of http://software-carpentry.org and http://datacarpentry.org
15:18 pdurbin mention of https://www.authorea.com
16:01 LyndsySimon I'll forward to our community folks, too :) Thanks!
16:05 pdurbin LyndsySimon: he mentioned some sort of "extraction API" you guys are working on. Is this described anywhere? I think that's what he called it...
16:09 LyndsySimon I'm not sure if there are formal/public docs for it yet, but yes, we're prepping the first portion of our public-facing API.
16:10 pdurbin oh! ok
16:10 LyndsySimon We've had an API for some time, but we've not encouraged its use or guaranteed persistence. This will change that.
16:10 pdurbin great!
16:10 LyndsySimon ETA is within the next month or so I believe (but it's not my project, so don't quote me)
16:24 pdurbin "v2 API based on the Django Rest Framework" https://github.com/CenterForOpenScience/osf.io/pull/2631
16:24 pdurbin maybe that's it
16:24 pdurbin anyway good stuff
16:24 * pdurbin loves APIs
16:25 pdurbin shauna: django rest framework!
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22:09 pdurbin shauna: dev guide "done". I hope it's friendly enough: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/latest/developers :)
23:03 shauna Looks great, pdurbin!
23:04 shauna The only thing I'd say is to put the contact info at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md in the first paragraph.
23:04 shauna It's currently under a couple different subheadings, which means that if someone is scanning for headings that apply to them they might miss it.
23:05 shauna Also it's linked to from the guide by "If you have any questions at all, please reach out to other developers per https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md"
23:06 shauna So basically I think that contact info should be in the first or second sentence of CONTRIBUTING.md.  And/or in the developer guide right before it makes that link.
23:06 pdurbin shauna: that makes sense. good idea
23:07 shauna oh man I have terrible commit hygiene
23:07 shauna (this is re: that COS pull request pdurbin linked)
23:08 shauna My last commit was "25 files changed, 179 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)" :( :( :(
23:09 pdurbin shauna: too many files, you mean?
23:10 shauna Yeah.  Or just, too much stuff in a given commit.  My commits are not precise enough.
23:11 pdurbin I hear you but in a big refactoring that's normal.
23:11 shauna It's because I mostly work alone and mostly don't revert things.  So I'm not usually looking through my commit history, so I don't have to deal with how unhelpfully big my commits are.
23:11 shauna I'm done refactoring the project I'm working on, but I am doing pretty rapid development, so.
23:11 shauna Maybe that excuses me.
23:11 * pdurbin absolves shauna
23:12 pdurbin shauna: go forth and sin no more
23:12 shauna :)

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