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08:55 romainM
hi ?
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11:15 pdurbin
romainM: welcome back
11:16 pdurbin
michbarsinai: you too! hey, we have some datatags integration to do some day
11:17 michbarsinai
Happy to be back! The Tags tutorial was a total time sink-hole :-)
11:27 pdurbin
at least we got a unicorn out of it: https://twitter.com/michbarsinai/status/660871238005473281 :)
11:28 michbarsinai
Well, that shows the state of mind I was in at the end of this thing
11:29 michbarsinai
I'm scared to think what I'll draw at the end of the thesis =:-o
11:45 pdurbin
heh. could also pass for a rhino ;)
12:08 pdurbin
michbarsinai: I showed it to kids over breakfast. tough crowd
12:08 pdurbin
"it's a unicorn without a mane"
12:08 pdurbin
"it has lion paws"
12:10 pdurbin
when I asked my six year old what animal has a horn there she said, "a triceratops" :)
12:10 michbarsinai
They were supposed to be big, since its a baby. I don't have an excuse for the lack of mane.
12:11 michbarsinai
:-)
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12:16 romainM
hey, pdurbin !
12:16 romainM
I had a little question about internationalization for dataverse
12:17 romainM
is their a list of supported languages ? and are languages (like french, for example) supported atm ?
12:17 romainM
I couldn't figure out where it is, if it is implemented
12:17 romainM
or not
12:18 romainM
I only saw some posts about internationalization and language discussions, but nothing else :(
12:21 pdurbin
romainM: I think Chinese is the farthest along: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/master/src/main/java/Bundle_zh_CN.properties
12:22 pdurbin
here's the main issue: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/209
12:24 pdurbin
Session 2: Dataverse Internationalization - http://projects.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse-community-meeting/people/yin-shenqin
12:25 pdurbin
here's DVN 3.x in Chinese: http://dvn.fudan.edu.cn/dvn/
12:26 pdurbin
however, as far as I know you can't run Dataverse 4 in any language other than English (yet)
12:27 pdurbin
romainM: "Another goal they have is to further the internationalization of Dataverse so that a French-language interface can be offered." http://bibliobrary.net/2015/10/19/ocul-digital-curation-summit-2015/
12:53 romainM
ok
12:53 romainM
ty for help ;)
12:54 romainM
I'm making a Dataverse presentation with my boss
12:55 romainM
for the team that requested a study on the available research data reposetories on the web
12:55 romainM
:)
13:46 pdurbin
romainM: nice. I'm glad Dataverse is on the list. I'd be happy to hear what you like or don't like about Dataverse compared with other solutions.
13:48 romainM
I doubt they will have any comparisons to do, except from my boss, maybe
13:49 romainM
we only compare dataverse 3 with 4, with some functionnalities missing
13:49 pdurbin
yeah, harvesting is missing for example
13:49 romainM
but, giving that 4 is still "going on", it's hard to "really" compare
13:49 pdurbin
sure
13:50 romainM
my boss said something about dynamic collections too, that she can't find on 4
13:50 pdurbin
romainM: it's now called Saved Search: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/90
13:50 romainM
oh
13:51 pdurbin
which is kind of a weird name. instead of Saved Search it should probably be called Autolinking or something (I'm not in marketing)
13:51 romainM
^^
13:52 pdurbin
and that feature still needs work
13:53 romainM
but it's available ?
13:53 romainM
gonna try now
13:53 romainM
it's 4.2 or later ?
13:58 pdurbin
romainM: Saved Search shipped with 4.0 but it's superuser-only: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.2.1/user/find-use-data.html#saved-search
13:58 pdurbin
see also http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.2.1/api/native-api.html#saved-search
13:58 romainM
aaahhhh
13:58 romainM
that's why I don't have the option with that account
13:59 romainM
thanks, sorry for disturbing you with this
14:01 pdurbin
romainM: no worries! If you can think of a way to explain this in the guides, please let me know!
14:02 pdurbin
romainM: if you're feeling adventurous you could run `vagrant up` and get a local copy of Dataverse running on your laptop. There you could explore superuser-only features.
14:03 romainM
just got granted super powers
14:03 romainM
:D
14:03 pdurbin
:)
14:03 romainM
except if admin function doesn't allow superuser powers
14:04 pdurbin
admin is different than superuser
14:04 romainM
arg
14:04 pdurbin
superuser is a boolean on the authenticated user table: https://apitest.dataverse.org/guides/developers/database/schemaspy/tables/authenticateduser.html
14:04 romainM
ah
14:05 romainM
gonna bother my admin sys then
14:05 pdurbin
admin is a role, a set of permissions (ALL): https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.2.1/scripts/api/data/role-admin.json
14:05 romainM
the "dataverse user" main account is superuser by default ?
14:06 pdurbin
romainM: right. username "dataverseAdmin". password "admin"
14:08 romainM
ok, found it
14:08 romainM
not very intuitive, but it exists ! :D
14:11 romainM
it's a superuser function because of the "needs work" thing ? or because ... because ?
14:13 romainM
hum
14:13 romainM
got a strange error with that saved search
14:15 romainM
(got another error too about template inherit, strange, will talk about that)
14:18 romainM
for the saved search :
14:18 romainM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4VcIiZlqh0Gb3cwVHNKSU5vbUk/view?usp=sharing
14:18 romainM
got this error
14:20 romainM
I did a simple research ("politique"), got the result (1 dataset, the one we see on the picture), then I do a "saved search" of it on a dataverse, and bim, got this after validating
14:37 pdurbin
romainM: CreateSavedSearchCommand CommandException?!? Which version is in the lower right? 4.2?
14:38 romainM
we are 4.2
14:38 romainM
v. 4.2 build 92-d6443eb
14:38 romainM
exactly
14:39 romainM
the dataset found with the search was unpublished, if it can help
14:39 pdurbin
romainM: do you think you can easily reproduce it? If so, please create an issue (and mention the version) at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues
14:41 romainM
just reproduced it
14:41 romainM
so yes, I can
14:42 romainM
will make an issue
14:42 romainM
for the other error
14:42 romainM
it's a data block problem
14:42 pdurbin
romainM: awesome. as much detail as possible for the steps to reproduce, please
14:42 romainM
I'm still investigating if it's MY fault or not
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14:46 romainM
ok ... my error can result in one question
14:46 romainM
if my root dataverse has only citation metadata
14:46 romainM
and I create a dataverse in the root, with citation metadata and geospatial metadata
14:47 romainM
is it normal that I can only create a dataset with citation metadata in the new dataverse ?
14:47 romainM
(and not a citation AND geospatial metadata ?)
14:48 romainM
(I tought dataverse could have different rules from the root dataverse)
14:48 pdurbin
romainM: we only show some fields on create. you can see more after you save and click edit
14:48 pdurbin
is that what you're seeing?
14:49 romainM
oh wait
14:50 romainM
ok, I'm dumb
14:50 romainM
all metadatas aren't available on creation, that's it
14:51 pdurbin
romainM: right. I think we're trying to avoid overwhelming people with too many metadata fields
14:52 pdurbin
romainM: but you should never see a CommandException. You've found a bug.
14:53 romainM
for the saved search you mean ?
14:53 pdurbin
yeah
14:53 romainM
ah yeah
14:53 romainM
^^
14:55 pdurbin
romainM: if you can create an issue for that (with steps) I'd really appreciate it
14:55 romainM
I'm doing this, don't worry ;)
14:55 pdurbin
thanks :)
15:08 romainM
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2718
15:08 romainM
did it
15:08 romainM
the action was simple, can't really add more descriptions
15:09 romainM
for the organization of the dataverses, I guess that's all I can say
15:09 pdurbin
romainM: looks great! thanks. just needs mention of the version number
15:09 romainM
arf
15:09 romainM
forgot it wasn't on the picture, sorry
15:10 romainM
added
15:10 pdurbin
romainM: now it's perfect! thanks!
15:19 pdurbin
huh. Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Not inside a request scope.
15:31 pdurbin
romainM: I'm able to reproduce the bug. I uploaded screenshots and a stack trace to that issue.
15:31 romainM
perfect !
15:37 romainM
about dataverse translation, if I understand well, the file to "translate" would be this one ?
15:37 romainM
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/4.3/src/main/java/Bundle.properties
15:38 romainM
or it's only a part of all ?
15:42 romainM
(or that was the case on dv3 and dv4 is not using this file anymore ?)
15:48 pdurbin
romainM: right. that's the main file. if you look at the history you'll see we are always modifying it: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/commits/master/src/main/java/Bundle.properties
15:53 romainM
dunno if it was used or updated "to be used"
15:53 romainM
^^"
15:53 romainM
ok
15:54 romainM
so there is "a way" to have a dataverse 4 in french
15:54 romainM
:D
15:56 pdurbin
romainM: did you see that link earlier about Leanne Trimble from http://www.scholarsportal.info ? "Another goal they have is to further the internationalization of Dataverse so that a French-language interface can be offered." http://bibliobrary.net/2015/10/19/ocul-digital-curation-summit-2015/ . Are you interested in helping?
15:57 romainM
yes, saw that
15:57 romainM
and why not
15:57 pdurbin
that would be great!
15:57 pdurbin
I wonder if I can get her to join us in here. :)
15:58 romainM
I didn't read "all" the article, so I didn't realized who was talking ^^
15:59 pdurbin
here she is: http://projects.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse-community-meeting/people/leanne-trimble
16:02 romainM
oh, she's from harvard ?
16:02 romainM
ok, that's what I was missing
16:02 pdurbin
no no
16:02 romainM
ah
16:03 romainM
then I'm completly lost
16:03 romainM
:D
16:03 pdurbin
"Data and Geospatial Librarian at Scholars Portal"
16:03 romainM
ah no, dommunity meeting
16:03 romainM
didn't read "all", again
16:03 pdurbin
https://onesearch.library.utoronto.ca/library-staff/leanne-trimble
16:03 romainM
sorry, harsh day ><
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16:03 pdurbin
romainM: I'm sure she wouldn't mind if you email her and offer to help!
16:11 romainM
I'll try then
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16:18 pdurbin
cool
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