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13:00 teya
Hello there
13:04 teya
i have installed dataverse , its installed by another person and now i want to do some work on solr and when i checked the default port 8983 solr is not running , how can i checked on which port its running or is there a possibility that dataverse doesn't use it at all?
13:28 pdurbin
teya: `netstat` or `lsof` I'd say
13:30 pdurbin
teya: actually, maybe try running `ps -efww | grep start.jar` and looking for a line that looks something like "/usr/bin/java -jar start.jar"
13:34 pdurbin
that should tell you if Solr is running, at least
13:44 teya
pdurbin: i tried ps -efww|grep start.jar and it returns nothing
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13:45 pdurbin
It sounds like Solr isn't running. What happens if you try to start it?
13:46 teya
but the dataverse is working without any error
13:50 teya
pdurbin: i searched for solr in the server and i found only these "1- /opt/apache-tomcat-8.0.8/webapps/solr 2- /opt/apache-tomcat-8.0.8/webapps/solr/META-INF/maven/org.dspace.modules/solr 3- /opt/apache-tomcat-8.0.8/work/Catalina/localhost/solr
13:50 teya
the second one is for some other system so 1 and 3 may be
13:51 pdurbin
teya: Could it be that someone configured your Dataverse installation to point to an instance of Solr on a remote host? This is how to configure that: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.5.1/installation/config.html#solrhostcolonport
13:52 teya
ok thats how it can be configure. but how can i see the current configuration?
13:53 pdurbin
teya: for how to list all settings (or just one), please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.5.1/api/native-api.html#admin
13:58 pdurbin
teya: for all settings: curl http://localhost:8080/api/admin/settings
13:58 teya
sorry for my silly question but how can i run those api calls?
13:59 teya
oh ok
14:00 pdurbin
teya: someday we'll build what we're calling an "administrative dashboard" for this so you don't have to use the command line: http://dataverse.org/goals-roadmap-and-releases
14:00 pdurbin
"The Dashboard will allow administrators to manage their Dataverse installation's settings, permissions, and integrations, and also perform other administrative tasks."
14:00 pdurbin
teya: for now you're stuck with the command line. Sorry!
14:01 pdurbin
teya: you can also query the "setting" table directly with SQL if you prefer. It only has two columns ("name" and "content"): http://phoenix.dataverse.org/schemaspy/latest/tables/setting.html
14:02 teya
thank you for this ! and can't wait to see that happen. but until that am going to nag you
14:03 pdurbin
I'm used to it. :)
14:04 * pdurbin
eyes donsizemore ;)
14:08 donsizemore
@pdurbin zzzz huh whah?
14:09 pdurbin
donsizemore: teya is trying to figure out where Solr is running
14:10 donsizemore
@pdurbin oh. reading back i thought it was my long history of nagging you =)
14:11 donsizemore
@teya a 'curl http://localhost:8080/api/admin/settings/:SolrHostColonPort' should tell you where dataverse is looking for solr
14:12 pdurbin
now if only it would tell me where I put my keys
14:17 donsizemore
@teya for general dataverse configuration you can find a bunch via http://guides.dataverse.org/en/latest/installation/config.html
14:25 teya
sorry guys, i tried curl http://localhost:8080/api/admin/settings/:SolrHostColonPort the only thing i changed is my datavese is running on port 80 and i got 404 resource is not available
14:27 pdurbin
teya: what's running on port 80? Glassfish or Apache?
14:27 teya
Glassfish
14:28 pdurbin
can you please try this: curl http://localhost/api/admin/settings
14:29 teya
still 404
14:32 pdurbin
teya: huh. Are you running v. 4.5.1 build 49-7e5e8c9?
14:33 pdurbin
teya: also, are you interesting in helping us design what the administrative dashboard looks like?
14:34 teya
its V3.0
14:34 pdurbin
woof, that should have been my first question
14:35 pdurbin
teya: DVN 3.0 works fine without Solr because it uses Lucene instead. It doesn't use Solr at all.
14:35 teya
Oh , so is there any way i can index the content into another solr instant?
14:35 teya
another i mean remote
14:36 pdurbin
Well, you should upgrade from DVN 3.x to Dataverse 4. Then all of your data will be indexed into Solr.
14:37 teya
and definitely yes i love to help u on building the dashboard
14:37 teya
ok thank you
14:37 teya
how about installing a solr for the v3 , is that workable?
14:38 donsizemore
and @teya i can give you a million precautions about what NOT to do in upgrading from 3 to 4 =)
14:38 donsizemore
our 3.6 instance used solr, i thought
14:38 donsizemore
@teya which version of 3 are you running?
14:39 teya
3.0 :(
14:39 pdurbin
teya: do you feel comfortable leaving a comment at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/840 saying that you're interested in helping with the design and eventual testing of the administrative dashboard?
14:40 donsizemore
@teya so you could look into upgrading to 3.6.3, which would a) get you into solr and b) put you in place to migrate to 4.5
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14:40 teya
sure i'll do that pdurbin
14:41 donsizemore
@teya you can get the warfile from https://sourceforge.net/projects/dvn/files/dvn/3.6.2/ to test
14:42 teya
donsizemore: other than upgrading it, do we have any option to use solr as it is? like installing solr on it
14:44 teya
or is that almost imposable task?
14:46 teya
or if there is any way to index the data not for dataverse consumption, but to get the data for another search engine. do u think its posable
14:47 teya
ok i think the only option is upgrading it right??
14:47 pdurbin
teya: the best option is to upgrade
14:47 donsizemore
@teya the most straightforward way, if the most painful for you at the moment, would be to upgrade as phil suggests
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14:48 pdurbin
teya: please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.5.1/installation/upgrading.html which boils down to you emailing support
14:49 pdurbin
I do believe donsizemore emailed that address a time or two. ;)
14:49 donsizemore
@teya a guy here who has been with the project for a long time doesn't remember when they switched to solr, but even then you'd want to upgrade from 3.0 to whichever version introduced solr
14:49 pdurbin
donsizemore: we switched to Solr in Dataverse 4.0.
14:49 teya
ok guys thank you vary much, talk to u later
14:51 pdurbin
teya: nice talking to you. Please don't forget to leave a comment on that GitHub issue about the administrative dashboard.
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