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00:27 pdurbin
balo bjonnh bret bricas jeffspies______ jhand JonathanNeal karissa majest1c petrichor rhiaro sivoais skay telnoratti yoh: I just created a "who's who" spreadsheet for this channel and put names and organizations next to the nicks of the more active folks in here. If anyone objects, please let me know! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16h3jv24usMGq18495C-JA-yNcQCKiKDa65MTraNDd7k/edit?usp=sharing
00:28 bret
👌
00:28 telnoratti
No objection here
00:28 pdurbin
"more active" being a somewhat arbitrary designation by me based on a quick look at recent activity based on http://dvn-vm1.hmdc.harvard.edu/data/mysql/irclog/irclog.tsv :)
00:29 pdurbin
select strftime('%Y', day),count(*),nick from tab1 where nick != '' and nick not like '%pdurbin%' group by nick,strftime('%Y', day) order by strftime('%Y', day) desc, count(*) desc;
00:31 pdurbin
on a related note I thought maybe I'd try to eat our on dogfood a bit and play with this data at https://demo.dataverse.org/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.5072/FK2/VAHCGY
00:31 pdurbin
to be honest, I'm not sure how to use TwoRavens very well... and I'm not sure what sort of insight I'd get from it
00:32 pdurbin
I was having slightly more luck with the new DDI Explorer (now Data Explorer) app at https://dataverse.scholarsportal.info/ddi_explore/index.html?uri=https://demo.dataverse.org/api/access/datafile/11414/metadata
00:33 pdurbin
at least I can check the box next to "nick" and click "Chart My Variables" :)
00:34 pdurbin
the SQL above is the most interesting to me though... it give me a sense of who has been active year by year
00:37 pdurbin
I'm a little annoyed that Dataverse doesn't "ingest" TSV files like the one above. I had to convert it to CSV first (I used https://github.com/brendano/tsvutils ). I'm pretty sure there's at least one open issue about this
00:40 pdurbin
found it: Support for tsv file ingest for tabular data · Issue #1912 · IQSS/dataverse - https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/1912
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00:41 pdurbin
bret telnoratti: I'm glad you don't object. Thanks.
00:41 pdurbin
I'll probably add it to the topic of this channel, etc.
00:50 sivoais
pdurbin: TwoRavens allows for plotting distributions, right?
00:51 sivoais
Perhaps you can find out when different people chat?
00:51 sivoais
And their overlap could be used to figure out who chats with who?
00:52 bjonnh
pdurbin: fine with me
00:52 sivoais
Or to see if someone chats at times that are vastly different from the activity of the rest of the channel
00:54 pdurbin
sivoais: TwoRavens is awesome but over my head. Also, I couldn't get it to work with the full history of these logs but maybe you can figure out how to make it sing with just last month's logs: https://demo.dataverse.org/dataexplore/gui.html?dfId=11414
00:54 pdurbin
bjonnh: thanks, again, I'll update the topic sometime and incorporate your other suggestions as well.
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09:29 cdsp-rmo
hello
11:53 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: good morning
12:33 cdsp-rmo
ty, you too
12:35 cdsp-rmo
I have troubles opening dataverse's waffle
12:35 cdsp-rmo
the oai-pmh pull request has passed the qa ?
12:36 cdsp-rmo
I also have a question about datasets's deletion : we have a strange case where we could delete over 91 datasets among 95, the last 4 couldn't be deleted, very strange
12:36 cdsp-rmo
and they aren't supposed to diverge from the others
12:37 cdsp-rmo
and by tring to use the DEL request, this is the error message we got : « Failed to delete dataset 1362 Cannot delete a released version »
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13:46 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: you can't see https://waffle.io/IQSS/dataverse ?
13:49 pdurbin
huh, this doesn't find your OAI-PMH issue: https://waffle.io/IQSS/dataverse?search=3368
13:49 pdurbin
I wonder if it's archived or something. from the waffle perspective
13:57 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: please let me know if this comment I just left helps: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3368#issuecomment-260340575
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13:58 pdurbin
djbrooke: mornin'! Can you please check out that comment too?
13:59 djbrooke
Hi pdurbin - just left a comment there
14:00 djbrooke
also relevant to cdsp-rmo - didn't see you there!
14:00 pdurbin
djbrooke: can we have issues stick around in Done until the release is done?
14:01 djbrooke
probably not, but will check
14:01 pdurbin
cool, it would make much more sense to me
14:01 pdurbin
and probably anyone arriving at waffle from http://dataverse.org/goals-roadmap-and-releases
14:02 djbrooke
Yeah, agreed but I don't believe that's configurable
14:02 djbrooke
Will check
14:02 pdurbin
cool
14:02 pdurbin
https://waffle.io/IQSS/dataverse?milestone=4.6%20-%20File%20Replace only shows 3 things done
14:03 pdurbin
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=milestone%3A%224.6%20-%20File%20Replace%22%20is%3Aclosed%20 shows 21 things closed
14:11 skay_
pdurbin: howdy, I'm okay with being in the list :)
14:16 pdurbin
skay_: good! Thanks! Crunching the numbers I was surprised by how active you've been in this channel. More so in the past. We're glad to have you!
14:17 pdurbin
donsizemore: bummer about all the problems this guy is having: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible/issues/4
14:17 pdurbin
I really appreciate how determined he is!
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14:43 pdurbin
"Today’s update adds three additional generalist repositories to our recommended repository list – Harvard Dataverse, Open Science Framework and Zenodo." http://blogs.nature.com/scientificdata/2016/11/14/expanding-our-generalist-data-repository-options/
14:43 pdurbin
jeffspies______: congrats to OSF for joining the club!
14:44 pdurbin
dunno if anyone from Zenodo is here
14:50 cdsp-rmo
pdurbin: ty, that's all I wanted to know
14:50 cdsp-rmo
it's perfect ! ;)
14:51 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: ok, I thought you had a question about deleting datasets too, though
14:54 cdsp-rmo
ya
14:55 cdsp-rmo
that's all I wanted to know for oai-pmh, my bad
14:55 cdsp-rmo
still got those 4 immortals datasets
14:55 cdsp-rmo
we deaccessioned them at least
14:55 cdsp-rmo
but still, that's strange
14:56 cdsp-rmo
4 among 95, without any files or what, just text
14:56 cdsp-rmo
:S
14:56 cdsp-rmo
maybe they have a "specific" field of data, will see that, but can't right now :S
14:57 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: you've see this, right? http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.5.1/user/dataset-management.html#deaccession-your-dataset-not-recommended
14:58 cdsp-rmo
about deaccession ?
14:58 pdurbin
yeah
14:58 cdsp-rmo
yes
14:58 pdurbin
the system is designed to prevent end users from deleting published data
14:59 pdurbin
there can still be a tombstone, a "deaccessioned" dataset
14:59 cdsp-rmo
our problem was kinda a "legal" one
14:59 pdurbin
so the DOI still goes somewhere
14:59 cdsp-rmo
some drafts were published without
14:59 cdsp-rmo
hum
14:59 cdsp-rmo
without the "ok" from some persons
14:59 pdurbin
whoops, it happens
14:59 cdsp-rmo
I deactivated on our doi's provider
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15:00 pdurbin
superusers can "destroy" a published dataset, but I see we don't document this at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.5.1/api/native-api.html#datasets
15:00 cdsp-rmo
I did
15:00 cdsp-rmo
I think
15:00 cdsp-rmo
I used the "death" url for the other 91
15:00 cdsp-rmo
it didn't worked for the 4 immortals I was talking about
15:01 cdsp-rmo
that's why I'm so confused
15:01 cdsp-rmo
this shouldn't be
15:02 pdurbin
I'm getting confused too.
15:03 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: is this confusion worthy of a GitHub issue? It sounds like it to me. Please feel free to create one. Maybe docs could be improved at least.
15:04 cdsp-rmo
that's what I wanted to do, the problem is just that I don't know what to "give" as complementary info
15:05 cdsp-rmo
any db things to check or what ?
15:05 cdsp-rmo
except the log message, I have nothing really useful here
15:05 cdsp-rmo
(will ake the issue anyway)
15:05 pdurbin
cdsp-rmo: I'm confused enough at this point that I think you should write up a GitHub issue from your perspective of what you're trying to do. It sounds like you're trying to deal with data that never should have been published.
15:06 cdsp-rmo
ok
15:06 pdurbin
thanks :)
15:06 pdurbin
I'm sure others will run into this.
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17:06 pdurbin
I deployed some code with some new login features (log in with ORCID, Google, and GitHub) to https://shibtest.dataverse.org if anyone would like to try these out and give feedback. No longer do we have the side-by-side shib vs. local you see at https://demo.dataverse.org/loginpage.xhtml . Instead it's a scalable login solution. Mockups etc. are linked from
17:06 pdurbin
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3338#issuecomment-258535919
17:06 pdurbin
pameyer: I made "ORCID Sandbox" the default when you click "Log In" in the navbar.
17:09 pameyer
pdurbin: cool
17:09 pameyer
I went looking for where to get ORCID sandbox credentials a while back, and got interrupted before I got credentials
17:09 pdurbin
yeah, some day I'd like to test real ORCID credentials
17:10 pdurbin
as opposed to the ORCID sandbox
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17:12 pdurbin
but logging in with ORCID sandbox, Google, and GitHub should work. I tested them last week
17:12 pdurbin
and logging in with Shibboleth should continue to work. and local accounts, of course
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is trying not to break anything :)
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