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13:09 pdurbin donsizemore: thanks for your reply but now I'm confused about what you wrote at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/ALce_zjxYMk/FQxB6jcYAwAJ
13:09 pdurbin and good morning :)
13:11 pdurbin specifically, I'm confused by this: "The Dataverse installer works out of the box with PostgresQL-8.4 (in RHEL 6 and Ubuntu 12 LTS) but not with PostgresQL-9.2 (included with RHEL 7"
13:15 donsizemore @pdurbin dvinstall.zip doesn't bundle a JDBC driver for 9.2. i may be confused or wrong about this (i usually am) but when i tested a dataverse install with centos7's included postgres version, the jdbc pool setup failed so the installer quit
13:15 pdurbin lemme take a look
13:16 pdurbin hmm, sure enough, I only see 8.4, 9.0, and 9.1 at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/tree/v4.6.1/scripts/installer/pgdriver
13:17 pdurbin donsizemore: have you seen this? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.6.1/Vagrantfile#L18
13:17 pdurbin elsif ENV['OPERATING_SYSTEM'] == 'centos7'
13:17 donsizemore @pdurbin 9.3 works, so that's what i went with. that was last summer when we were preparing to migrate, so i wanted to stick with something "approved"
13:18 pdurbin donsizemore: do you feel like running `vagrant up` with "centos7" in that environment variable to see if it "just works", if you get a working Dataverse installation?
13:19 donsizemore @pdurbin rhel/centos6 is supported until 2024, so you're good there =) but 7 performs better (newer kernel) and would offer postgresql-9.4 that raman wants
13:20 pdurbin I don't believe anyone is working on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3125 which is where your PostgreSQL 9.4+ requirement is coming from. My goal is for Dataverse to "just work" with the version of PostgreSQL that ships with the operating system.
13:21 donsizemore @pdurbin yes yes =) your smaller installations will particularly appreciate standarization
13:21 pdurbin :)
13:21 pdurbin donsizemore: do you feel like doing that `vagrant up` test for me?
13:22 donsizemore @pdurbin rebooting my ubuntu test box now for some patches, then absolutely
13:22 pdurbin sweet, thanks
13:26 donsizemore @pdurbin it's barfed on a few dependencies (unzip, postgresql init-db under 7. want the output as a slack snippet, or e-mail or some such?)
13:27 donsizemore @pdurbin or maybe i tweak this and send you a PR? it's a quiet friday so far
13:38 pdurbin donsizemore: I'd love the output, however you can get it to me. Maybe email it to support@dataverse.org
13:38 pdurbin or make a gist or whatever
13:39 pdurbin donsizemore: or you could make a github issue and attach the output there
13:40 donsizemore @pdurbin i'll withhold the Old-Testament-length maven output =)
13:40 pdurbin heh, ok
13:41 pdurbin A GitHub issue makes sense because I don't want people to have a bad user experience attempting to install Dataverse on the latest version of CentOS (version 7), which has been out for quite a while.
13:58 pdurbin donsizemore: that way you can associate your pull request with an issue. :)
14:02 donsizemore @dprbun well, dang! i promise you it failed for me last summer, or i absolutely used 9.2 in production. i'll send you the output with a couple of notes anyway
14:03 donsizemore err @pdurbin not @drpepper
14:09 pdurbin you can call me drpepper, I don't care :)
14:10 pdurbin donsizemore: are you saying that it "just worked" on centos 7?
14:13 donsizemore @pdurbin the Vagrantfile did - but it builds its own warfile, and I remember my installation attempt via dvinstall.zip failed. that, however, was last summer. let me try again today. just gonna send you the output for your own interest
14:16 pdurbin I'm glad to hear `vagrant up` on CentOS 7 works fine. Phew. I don't test dvinstall.zip so I have no idea.
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15:00 donsizemore @pdurbin lemme whip up a centos7 vm to pick on
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15:36 pdurbin cool
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19:55 donsizemore @pdurbin okay, time for me to kick last-summer-me. works with postgresql-9.2 via dvinstall.zip. but i know i tried this last summer and it failed
19:56 pdurbin phew
19:56 pdurbin donsizemore: thanks for testing!
20:03 donsizemore @pdurbin i'm going to update dataverse-ansible to simply use 9.2. hoping we won't need to do a system migration until rhel8 is out =)
20:07 pdurbin donsizemore: cool. When will RHEL 8 be out?
20:10 donsizemore @pdurbin hard to say. i can't even find online which Fedora release will be upstream for RHEL8, and most of my Red Hat peeps no longer work for Red Hat. I'd expect a public beta within the year
20:11 pdurbin ok
20:11 pdurbin I only ask because I hear the init system keeps changing. I'm using to the init system in CentOS 6.
20:11 pameyer I'm still getting used to systemd
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20:12 pdurbin What do you call in init sytem in CentOS 6?
20:13 pameyer I call it init - but that doesn't imply that's what it *should* be called
20:13 pameyer system V init?
20:13 pdurbin yeah, something like that
20:13 pdurbin But won't it change again in RHEL 8?
20:13 pameyer I *hope* not
20:15 pdurbin I be someone in #crimsonfu knows.
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20:23 donsizemore systemd has certainly had its share of public embarrassments but i don't mind it. i am seriously kicking myself over this postgres version thing.
20:35 pdurbin donsizemore: there went your Friday. Sorry. ;)
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22:00 pdurbin sounds like systemd is here to stay: https://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2017-03-24
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