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09:11 poikilotherm
pdurbin: when you are reading this, you might consider taking a look at this: https://pasteboard.co/IeN0JGb.png
09:12 poikilotherm
(At least I hope you are still asleep at 5am ;-) )
09:54 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I like it but it's getting a little... complicated. Also, I'm starting to worry about maintaining the diagram if it has lots of details. I haven't used Inkscape very much. I guess I'm lazy. We made the "advanced installation" diagram with some text run through plantuml. It's not as fancy but it's easy to maintain.
09:54 pdurbin
Your diagram looks nicer than the plantuml one.
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09:56 pdurbin
Instead of having all the integrations weight Dataverse down like a boat anchor, what if they were on top and lifting Dataverse up like a giant ballon, carrying it into the clouds? :)
09:56 poikilotherm
From the completness view of things I'd like to call this "has everything inside"
09:56 poikilotherm
:-D
09:56 poikilotherm
Sure, why not
09:56 poikilotherm
Sounds fancy :-D
09:57 poikilotherm
I isn't necessary to replace that diagram coming from PlantUML
09:57 pdurbin
Can we keep all the labels straight? View, Discover, etc are tilted.
09:57 poikilotherm
It's fine for a very technical description
09:58 poikilotherm
I wanted those so it gets clearer this is sth. different
09:58 pdurbin
"Preserv" is missing an e at the end.
09:58 poikilotherm
Yeah, it wont fit :-D
09:58 poikilotherm
Maybe you have a good synonym?
09:58 pdurbin
Should "ingress" be "ingest"? What is ingress?
10:00 poikilotherm
Ingress as in "Ingress Traffic"
10:00 poikilotherm
Used in Routing. Maybe to meta / technical
10:00 pdurbin
hmm, I don't think "ingress" adds clarity
10:01 pdurbin
If a word won't fit, I'd suggest making the font a little smaller until it does.
10:02 poikilotherm
Ok, I'll resize
10:02 poikilotherm
Is "Ingest" fine or better use sth else?
10:04 poikilotherm
About "complicated": Should I replace the "balloon" with a hexagon "Integrations" and leave at that level of detail?
10:04 poikilotherm
I was going to create a more details "integrations" graph anyway...
10:04 poikilotherm
-details +detailed
10:05 poikilotherm
I'll be AFK for some time - going to have some lunch
10:09 pdurbin
great minds think alike... I was thinking maybe just simplify the integrations boat anchor down to just one "integrations" hexagon
10:09 pdurbin
less is more
10:38 poikilotherm
Re
10:38 poikilotherm
:-D
10:38 poikilotherm
Yeah
10:39 poikilotherm
https://memegenerator.net/instance/57498997/jean-luc-picard-make-it-so-make-it-so
10:53 pdurbin
heh
11:25 poikilotherm
Alright pdurbin, here we go: https://pasteboard.co/IeNT11n.png
11:31 pdurbin
poikilotherm: looks great! What if you change "reverse proxy" to "apache"?
11:33 pdurbin
People know what Apache is. And they can swap in nginx or whatever in their minds if they want.
11:35 pdurbin
Also, shouldn't "Local" be the same color as "Swift" and "S3"?
11:42 poikilotherm
Local is always required
11:42 poikilotherm
When uploading data etc, local storage is needed
11:48 poikilotherm
It is used only temporarily, but needed
11:49 poikilotherm
Oh and it used for things like logo etc
11:55 poikilotherm
I could use the Apache icon :-)
11:55 poikilotherm
As I did with the db and index
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12:04 poikilotherm
pdurbin: here you are: https://pasteboard.co/IeO8OJw.png
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12:07 pdurbin_m
poikilotherm: looks great and good point about local storage.
12:08 pdurbin_m
but can you just call it Apache?
12:09 poikilotherm
Ok I'll name it "Apache Proxy", so it is exactly clear what this is about when used
12:11 pdurbin_m
cool
12:12 poikilotherm
https://pasteboard.co/IeOck2M.png
12:16 poikilotherm
Fixed some font issues, too https://pasteboard.co/IeOdFrV.png
12:17 poikilotherm
Will embed this in docs now. Let's see if I can get this nice feature working... I really liked that detail text showing up when hovering over the parts
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13:07 pdurbin_m
looking forward to trying the hover text but it's also a very nice diagram without it
13:09 poikilotherm
That was my intention... It should be reusable in other places without embedded javascript, too
13:25 pdurbin
degrades gracefully, perfect
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19:40 pdurbin
the names of the talks just went up: https://dcm2019.sched.com ... including mine :)
