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09:39 dataverse-user20
Bonjour tout le monde, Je suis stagiaire au CERDI/CNRS dans le but d'installer l'application dataverse pour CERDI. Mais je rencontre des problèmes pendant l'installation au niveau du deployment de dataverse. J'ai vraiment besoin de votre secours merci bcp!
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10:12 pdurbin
The same message in French appears at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/riBECCvYxt8/Q7hZTal4AgAJ but there seems to be a server.log attached.
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10:13 stefankasberger
So, back on track. Hello everybody. :)
10:14 pdurbin
stefankasberger: hi! I've been using pyDataverse!
10:14 stefankasberger
Hope you like the new release. :)
10:14 stefankasberger
Seen some issues in the inbox. will work through later on.
10:15 pdurbin
I upgraded to the new release and my code still works. That's good. :)
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10:28 stefankasberger
:)
10:29 pdurbin
I replied in English. I don't speak French.
10:31 pdurbin
stefankasberger: being able to "destroy" published datasets is the feature I want the most at the moment: https://github.com/AUSSDA/pyDataverse/issues/21
10:31 stefankasberger
@pdurbin: is the g-drive folder from the conference not accessible anymore? wanted to open the folder or a doc from it, then i needed to request it. what is now the plan: will the slides be published and linked somewhere, on the agenda maybe?
10:32 stefankasberger
Dataset.destroy(identifier, really=True) will be added to the Feature list. Or even better: create an issue yourself, if you didn't do already.
10:33 pdurbin
stefankasberger: I went to http://bit.ly/dataverse2019 yesterday morning and got a message saying "you need permission" and clicked "request access". Then I heard in an afternoon meeting that this is a known problem and someone is fixing it.
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10:34 pdurbin
Oh, it looks like someone did grant me permission. Maybe for now you can do the same. You can also click "request access" I mean.
10:35 stefankasberger
did it already. lets see.
10:37 poikilotherm
Morning guys :-)
10:38 poikilotherm
Looks like I need to speed up working on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5974
10:39 poikilotherm
This morning I talked with the guy running the auth services for the european open science cloud (EOSC)
10:39 poikilotherm
He is here at Jülich ;-)
10:40 pdurbin
stefankasberger: I just emailed you a zip file of all the docs
10:40 pdurbin
poikilotherm: please tell him we say hi :)
10:42 poikilotherm
I think about mentioning him on the Github issue :-D
10:43 pdurbin
Does he want to make a pull request? :)
10:43 poikilotherm
Don't think so... But he is very open about the IDM stuff they are using
10:43 poikilotherm
(Linked it... See B2ACCESS)
10:46 pdurbin
You aren't asking us to support any specific IDM are you? You just want us to support more auth protocols, right?
10:46 poikilotherm
Not protocols
10:46 poikilotherm
This is still OAuth2
10:47 poikilotherm
As a first baby step I would create a PR adding support for a general connector
10:47 pdurbin
mechanisms
10:47 pdurbin
connectors
10:47 poikilotherm
Which is configurable to talk to a custom service
10:47 poikilotherm
Ideally using Open ID scopes
10:48 pdurbin
cool, sounds great
10:48 poikilotherm
IIRC ScribeJava has a module for that included
10:48 pdurbin
How would we test it?
10:48 poikilotherm
This is not providing full OIDC standard implementation (missing discovery, etc) but it would be a good small step
10:49 poikilotherm
I see two options
10:49 poikilotherm
For integration testing
10:49 poikilotherm
OK three
10:49 poikilotherm
1) run all in a K8s ephemeral cluster spun up as needed
10:50 poikilotherm
2) ask JSC for test accounts and test with their IDM
10:50 poikilotherm
3) run a unity idm on jenkins
10:50 poikilotherm
(or a similar machina)
10:51 poikilotherm
ephemeral sounds good to me...
10:51 poikilotherm
Ideally this should be backed by end2end tests
10:52 pdurbin
Sorry, who or what is JSC?
10:52 poikilotherm
Oh sry
10:52 poikilotherm
Jülich Supercomputing Centre
10:52 pdurbin
option 2 sounds the easiest for our QA person
10:52 poikilotherm
The running the B2ACCESS stuff is working there
10:53 pdurbin
easiest if you can do the asking :)
10:53 pdurbin
and can just provide credentials and config to test
10:54 poikilotherm
Japp
10:55 poikilotherm
They have testing instances anyway
10:55 pdurbin
cool
10:55 poikilotherm
(Saw them earlier this morning)
10:55 poikilotherm
So we wouldn't need to have a prod access for testing
10:55 pdurbin
And how do we explain the feature to other installations of Dataverse? "We added an additional login option. Now you can..."
10:56 poikilotherm
Most certainly a new docs section would make sense...
10:56 pdurbin
At https://dataverse.org/software-features we have Login via Shibboleth and Login via ORCID, Google, or GitHub
10:57 pdurbin
(auth features are very popular, by the way)
10:57 poikilotherm
:-D
10:57 poikilotherm
Maybe "Login with your IDM"?
10:58 poikilotherm
Plus a link to the docs section to explain the tested possibilites
10:59 pdurbin
But do people know what an IDM is? I wonder.
11:00 pdurbin
I wonder if this would have helped the folks who are using Drupal as their IDM. Was it QDR? Let me dig a bit.
11:01 pdurbin
Yes, QDR. The original thread was "Single Sign On Integration with Drupal" at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/VjTHzWjP4NU/mPGOObw2BgAJ
11:01 poikilotherm
Dunno. Maybe sth. like "Enhanced user management and login with Open ID compliant identity management"?
11:01 * poikilotherm
goes reading
11:04 pdurbin
The lead developer for QDR is now Jim Myers, by the way: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr+author%3Aqqmyers+is%3Amerged+
11:05 pdurbin
Anyway, more flexibility with auth options is always good.
11:05 poikilotherm
What he is talking about in https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/VjTHzWjP4NU/0bQzK4KTBgAJ is more or less what OAuth2 does...
11:06 pdurbin
If you go to https://data.qdr.syr.edu you can see their custom auth solution.
11:06 pdurbin
They're using SAML.
11:07 pdurbin
Their code is on GitHub if you're interested.
11:09 poikilotherm
Hmm do you know what is used for the IdP side?
11:10 poikilotherm
Doesn't look like Shib
11:10 pdurbin
I'm seeing stuff like (':QDRDrupalSiteURL')}/user/register at https://github.com/QualitativeDataRepository/dataverse/blob/9db01963f75c276fa6b01ea4fabbc713519df836/src/main/webapp/dataverse_header.xhtml#L240
11:10 pdurbin
I do believe they're using Shibboleth. shibd and mod_shib. We could ask Jim.
11:11 poikilotherm
Ok then they seem to have switched to sth else than using Drupal as the IdP
11:12 pdurbin
Jim was sitting to my right at https://twitter.com/shlakeuva/status/1141507247337611264 (Philipp from Norway to my left)
11:13 pdurbin
Slava and stefankasberger across from me.
11:13 poikilotherm
T_T
11:14 poikilotherm
I did insulation work on my roof.
11:14 poikilotherm
I had glass wool next to me, across from me and all over me
11:14 pdurbin
No, I'm pretty sure they're still using Drupal as their IdP and are using SAML and Shibboleth.
11:15 pdurbin
I mean, at a high level, you have a similar problem or need, right? You have an IdP you want to use with Dataverse. And it doesn't "just work".
11:16 pdurbin
QDR had to do some tweaking and I suppose that's part of why they're running a fork. The put a lot of stuff unrelated to auth in their fork as well.
11:17 pdurbin
I'm just thinking it might be nice for you to bounce some ideas off of Jim.
11:17 pdurbin
I think Alex rather than Jim got it working but I assume Jim knows how it works.
11:17 pdurbin
And I can kind of guess from old messages on the mailing list.
11:20 poikilotherm
Yeah, its kind of related. Two important things to note here: 1) we need to have multiple access options, not only one and 2) Shib has to die as an SP
11:21 pdurbin
Heh. Did Shib kick your dog?
11:21 poikilotherm
Ceterum censeo Shibboleth esse delendam
11:22 poikilotherm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est
11:22 pdurbin
The creators of Shib were extremely helpful to me on the shib users mailing list. They're great.
11:22 pdurbin
Scott Cantor et al.
11:22 poikilotherm
Yeah, Shib as an IdP is fine
11:22 poikilotherm
It definitly is a cool piece of software
11:23 poikilotherm
But as an SP its really giving me a hard time
11:23 pdurbin
I mean they helped me get the Shib SP working with Dataverse.
11:23 pdurbin
And Shib/SAML has been a very popular feature for Dataverse.
11:23 poikilotherm
And I don't want to mess with the SP implementation now present in Dataverse
11:24 poikilotherm
And I truly believe that the days of SAML are counted. Which is not the fault of Shib or their creators.
11:24 pdurbin
QDR had to change a few attribute mappings. These are just config files for the Shib SP.
11:25 pdurbin
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think SAML will continue to be used for quite a while.
11:26 pdurbin
SAML is an old, stable technology.
11:26 poikilotherm
I totally agree on that.
11:27 poikilotherm
SAML itself is fine.
11:27 poikilotherm
The problems are organizational.
11:28 pdurbin
Yeah, and it would be nice if Dataverse didn't require Shibboleth for SAML support.
11:29 pdurbin
Dataverse and Shibboleth are tightly coupled right now.
11:29 poikilotherm
https://imgflip.com/i/34eyzo
11:29 pdurbin
heh
11:30 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I would still love it if you would spend a little time on https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/4
11:30 poikilotherm
When my colleague comes back to his desk, I'll repeat my question ;-)
11:33 pdurbin
Well, you could make that your own personal board. I have one: https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/3 :)
11:34 poikilotherm
Right you are
11:34 pdurbin
What's nice is that one of the issues I put on my board was discussed in sprint planning yesterday (not *because* it's on my board, I don't think) and it's in our current sprint. :)
11:34 poikilotherm
Cool :-)
11:35 pdurbin
I'm still not sure about GitHub's default columns for "bug triage" boards though: High Priority and Low Priority. I'll probably rename mine.
11:35 pdurbin
Maybe I'll copy whatever you do. :)
11:36 pdurbin
I might have a column like "advocate for" to have handy during sprint planning.
11:45 pdurbin
poikilotherm: ooo, "Backlog" and "In Focus". I like it!
11:45 poikilotherm
This is a WIP
11:46 poikilotherm
Meh, no swimlanes :-(
11:48 pdurbin
GitHub Projects is a little bare bones but I like it.
11:48 pdurbin
And I think GitHub will keep improving it.
11:58 poikilotherm
Ok this should be a good start for now
12:00 pdurbin
poikilotherm: looks great! Thank you!
12:00 pdurbin
ooo I really want https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/64
12:01 * pdurbin
adds it to his board
12:01 pdurbin
It's like dreaming about Christmas.
12:02 poikilotherm
Wuahahahaa
12:04 poikilotherm
Did you see I already created some glitter balls for thisß
12:06 poikilotherm
Maybe I should add some docs and merge :-D
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12:19 pdurbin
I don't see any glitter balls at https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/4
12:24 poikilotherm
They are still wrapped
12:25 poikilotherm
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/64#ref-commit-68658b6
12:25 pdurbin
:)
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13:03 pdurbin
You can see donsizemore at the table next to us.
13:07 poikilotherm
pdurbin I just talked to our auth guy... He will think about it and respond back
13:07 pdurbin
cool, should we try to summon qqmeyers here?
13:08 poikilotherm
You think this might be of interest for him/them?
13:08 pdurbin
He seems to love all things tech.
13:08 pdurbin
He had some interesting comments after the Nextcloud presentation about file systems.
13:09 pdurbin
And we talked EJB over beers. Like you do.
13:11 poikilotherm
:-D
13:11 poikilotherm
Sure, go ahead then :-D
13:11 pdurbin
The problem is I don't have him on any chat.
13:12 poikilotherm
Let me see the mighty wizard in you. After you summoned him, I might tap him.
13:12 pdurbin
Even though I'm on all the chats, I think. I'm on IRC (obviously), XMPP, Slack, Signal, WhatsApp, Discord, Skype, Gitter, and probably some I'm forgetting.
13:13 pdurbin
I guess I'll have to email him.
13:15 pdurbin
done
13:16 pdurbin
sachaj: thanks for answering my questions over at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-installations/issues/2#issuecomment-506331906 !
13:18 poikilotherm
https://www.mtgcardmaker.com/m[…]1=&set2=&setname=
13:20 poikilotherm
Maybe we should create a card deck for next years community meeting? :-d
13:20 pdurbin
heh
13:20 pdurbin
poikilotherm: you have me so worried that if we switch from IRC that chat will be clogged with images :)
13:21 pdurbin
but that is really neat
13:21 poikilotherm
Depens on the image if you're going to feel clogged, doesn't it?
13:22 pdurbin
Is anyone here going to RDA Finland in October? The deadline for session and poster submission is in less than 5 hours, I think: https://rd-alliance.org/plenary-14-session-and-poster-submission-deadline-next-week
13:25 poikilotherm
Oi pdurbin how do you feel about a service account for pushing docker images to the hub=
13:26 poikilotherm
I am not very fond of using my own account for this on Travis/Jenkins/Whatever...
13:59 poikilotherm
donsizemore Jenkins warns about /var/lib/jenkins being almost full
14:00 donsizemore
heh. i'll clean out some space
14:02 donsizemore
14G piled up in failed docker builds, 5G in /var/lib/jenkins
14:05 poikilotherm
Do you mind if I install the Github pull request plugin?
14:05 donsizemore
@pdurbin okay to purge old release warfiles from the IQSS-dataverse-develop job? 4.12, 4.13, 4.14.
14:06 donsizemore
@pdurbin and also put in a call to delete target/*.war after the run
14:06 donsizemore
@poikilotherm not at all, go for it
14:06 poikilotherm
Ok. While in there, shall I update the plugins, too?
14:06 donsizemore
@poikilotherm absolutely
14:07 donsizemore
there are jenkins plugin updates more often than adobe flashplayer ;)
14:09 poikilotherm
Lots of 'em...
14:10 donsizemore
@pdurbin beep bop we're getting 503s from harvard dataverse
14:12 donsizemore
@poikilotherm I think I last updated them just before the community meeting
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14:35 poikilotherm
OMG pdurbin you did it!
14:35 poikilotherm
You successfully summoned the mighty create qqmyers
14:35 poikilotherm
creature
14:35 Jim96
Sorry for being late to the party - QDR is using LDAP behind Shib and keeps user account details synced with Drupal.
14:35 poikilotherm
Hey Jim96
14:35 poikilotherm
Interesting
14:36 poikilotherm
So you are using some kind of cronjon for this?
14:36 poikilotherm
cronjob
14:36 Jim96
No - drupal modules
14:37 poikilotherm
Using the Dataverse User API on updates in Drupal?
14:37 Jim96
FWIW: If we hadn't had a start with shib when I came on, I would have argued for Oauth2 instead - it just would have been harder to switch than go forward.
14:38 Jim96
I think we've just bypassed keeping Dataverse up to date - the buttons to see your account just send you to drupal.
14:40 poikilotherm
Ok
14:43 Jim96
One potential pointer for Oauth2 and shib is the CILogon project. It's been a while since I looked but they were/are trying to let you login with shib or Oauth.
14:45 donsizemore
correct
14:45 Jim96
Also fwiw: as QDR is looking into Drupal 8, I'm finding that the shib module for it is very minimal - lots of D7 functionality missing. I'll probably fix that but the fact that D8 has been out for a while doesn't suggest there's much interest/activity there.
14:49 poikilotherm
Sry guys, gotta go, pick up kids
14:49 poikilotherm
Read you tomorrow
14:49 poikilotherm
(Maybe later this evening)
15:12 pdurbin
Jim96: thanks for stopping by! Did you see the playing card Oliver made with your name on it? :)
15:14 pdurbin
"summon expert": https://i.imgur.com/IsGd4Cq.jpg
15:15 pdurbin
Time for standup. Does anyone have anything I should mention?
15:15 Jim96
Awesome!
15:15 Jim96
Nothing in particular...
15:28 pdurbin
Jim96: actually, I'm about to open an issue having to do with the lock you added in 4.15. Want to hear about it first? :)
15:49 Jim96
sure
15:50 pdurbin
Of course I'm having trouble reproducing it now. :)
16:00 pdurbin
Ah, it doesn't happen ever time.
16:00 pdurbin
But I was just able to reproduce it.
16:01 Jim96
And 'it' is?
16:02 pdurbin
Heh. Sorry. I'm writing it up as an issue. Here's the working title: "Edit In Progress" lock remains forever when a tabluar file is uploaded and going through ingest while a second file is uploaded via native API
16:03 pdurbin
Does that sound like the lock you added? I haven't looked yet.
16:03 Jim96
I added edit in progress - it gets set/cleared as part of the UpdateDatasetVersionCommand.
16:05 pdurbin
Yes, I see what you mean by looking at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/5551
16:06 Jim96
We did discover a way that the Update could fail and leave the lock - was mentioned in a separate issue (looking it up now). I haven't checked to see if the fix was added to the pull on that or not.
16:07 pdurbin
Yeah, that's what's happening. The lock never goes away. So I can't delete the dataset.
16:09 Jim96
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5847
16:10 pdurbin
Interesting. That issue is related but was fixed before 4.15 was released. I'm talking about a bug in 4.15.
16:10 Jim96
The lock should always go away if the command completes. The only issue I know of right now is if the command fails - there's a way the lock stays then. Adding the fix discussed in the issue above would solve that but not the underlying command failure.
16:11 Jim96
That issue was fixed, but I'm not sure it included the fix that I brought up in the comments.
16:11 Jim96
Do you see a command failing in the log?
16:12 Jim96
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5847#issuecomment-497731967
16:13 pdurbin
It doesn't look like any extra fixes were added after your comment.
16:14 Jim96
OK - so another PR for me to add... I'm just merging 4.15 and QDR - I'll take a diff there to submit this fix.
16:19 pdurbin
Jim96: great! I'm close to being done writing it up.
16:26 pdurbin
Caused by: javax.persistence.OptimisticLockException: Exception [EclipseLink-5010] (Eclipse Persistence Services - 2.5.2.v20140319-9ad6abd): org.eclipse.persistence.exceptions.OptimisticLockException
16:26 pdurbin
Exception Description: The object [edu.harvard.iq.dvn.core.study.FileMetadata[id=39]] cannot be merged because it has changed or been deleted since it was last read.
16:26 pdurbin
at edu.harvard.iq.dataverse.engine.command.impl.UpdateDatasetVersionCommand.execute(UpdateDatasetVersionCommand.java:103)
16:27 pdurbin
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.15/src/main/java/edu/harvard/iq/dataverse/engine/command/impl/UpdateDatasetVersionCommand.java#L103
16:30 Jim96
From that location, I think the fix I'm proposing will remove the lock, but the underlying bug leading to that exception is something that needs to be figured out.
16:31 pdurbin
I'm uploading a stack trace.
16:34 pdurbin
Jim96: ok, I just created this issue: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5979
16:34 pdurbin
To be clear, this might be pre-existing. I just happened to notice the lock you added in 4.15.
16:38 pdurbin
And for my purposes for the "create sample data" issue I'm working on, I can just add a sleep as a work around. But clearly there is some sort of bug. :)
17:10 donsizemore
@pdurbin jon ran into a similar dealy on 4.14 just before his TRSA demo at the DCM. i can go poke in the logfiles if you want.
17:13 pdurbin
orly
17:13 pdurbin
Well, it might be good to know which versions of Dataverse are affected.
17:14 pdurbin
Maybe the bug exists in 4.14 but looks different. I don't know.
17:15 pdurbin
My "sample data" code should work fine on previous versions of Dataverse. I just figured I'd test the latest and greatest. So if you want to follow my steps to reproduce the but on whatever version of Dataverse, please feel free.
17:15 pdurbin
And I'd love feedback on if my README makes sense. :)
18:12 pdurbin
bricas_: I just updated https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/releases/tag/v4.15 to say that PostgreSQL 9.6 is now required. Does it look ok?
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19:55 poikilotherm
*tada*
19:55 poikilotherm
Anyone still around?
19:56 poikilotherm
(BTW pdurbin: have i catched up with pameyer? He hasn't been around for a while... :-D)
20:21 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I saw him at the community meeting last week. And his boss.
20:43 xarthisius
pdurbin: hey! you mentioned something about an idea the other day
20:43 xarthisius
sorry I haven't been paying attention to irc
21:14 poikilotherm
pdurbin: still around?
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21:18 pdurbin_m
xarthisius: Hi! Are you aware of https://github.com/jupyter/repo2docker/blob/dce6c1e8d731b4846d722ef0701745321c3a694c/repo2docker/contentproviders/zenodo.py ?
21:18 poikilotherm
pdurbin_m can we talk about a bot user for a second?
21:29 pdurbin_m
poikilotherm: I love bots
21:29 poikilotherm
Cool.
21:29 pdurbin_m
I love you.
21:29 poikilotherm
Are you ok with me adding a GitHub user dataverse-bot?
21:29 poikilotherm
I would hand it over to you
21:29 poikilotherm
But I'd like to test things
21:30 poikilotherm
When things are cool, I'll just pass it on to you guys to add it to teams, change password, email etc
21:31 poikilotherm
You know, I'm a maker :-D
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21:39 pdurbin_m
poikilotherm: what would it do?
21:40 poikilotherm
Linking Jenkins and Github. Linking DockerHub and GitHub
21:40 poikilotherm
Focus on Jenkins <-> Github
21:41 poikilotherm
Can be used to setup hooks, respond to tests, etc
21:41 pdurbin_m
chatops?
21:41 poikilotherm
Maybe... Naming the Jenkins simple trigger regexes "chatops" might be too much :-D
21:42 poikilotherm
But yes, one might create an IRC bot connected to Github via this bot account
21:44 pdurbin_m
oh
21:44 pdurbin_m
you aren't talking about IRC bots
21:44 poikilotherm
Nope, I am talking about an GitHub bot account
21:45 poikilotherm
That can be assigned to teams/projects as needed for integration with Jenkins, maybe more
21:45 poikilotherm
Credentials to be stored in Jenkins, so people can reuse it without having real access
22:01 poikilotherm
I just made an example. Happy to delete the user again.
22:02 poikilotherm
Please give Mr. Robot a warm welcome
22:02 poikilotherm
https://github.com/dataverse-bot
22:03 poikilotherm
He already joined dataverse-kubernetes project as an admin
22:03 poikilotherm
But of course he is not yet part of IQSS teams...
22:04 poikilotherm
Just a small toy robot, freshly manufactured and wrapped in silver foil
22:06 pdurbin_m
poikilotherm: sorry, pushing a bike, walking kids home from camp
22:06 poikilotherm
No problem. Take a look at him or her later ;-)
22:13 pdurbin
home
22:13 pdurbin
whoops, he's gone
22:13 pdurbin
poikilotherm: oh, no you're not
22:13 poikilotherm
Still there
22:13 pdurbin
I've seen bots like this in the Glassfish repo and they seem really great.
22:14 poikilotherm
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/71#issuecomment-506530703
22:15 poikilotherm
Created this by testing the Jenkins GitHub Pull request plugin config
22:15 pdurbin
glassfishrobot at https://github.com/javaee/glassfish/pull/22609 for example
22:15 pdurbin
"@glassfishrobot Run CI tests please"
22:15 poikilotherm
Yeah
22:16 poikilotherm
You can configure those strings Jenkins "listens" on per Jenkins project when using the plugin
22:17 pdurbin
How did you get the "hello world" in there?
22:17 poikilotherm
And by adding the bot user to the Github project this should be easy to integrate as needed
22:17 poikilotherm
https://i.imgur.com/JarQT9e.png
22:18 poikilotherm
That way ;-)
22:18 pdurbin
Nice. Do you mind if I add this to your issue 71?
22:19 poikilotherm
That picture?
22:19 pdurbin
yeah
22:19 poikilotherm
It's not very interesting for someone else (just testing), but if you think it adds value, go ahead
22:20 poikilotherm
I hope you like my robot avatar :_D
22:22 pdurbin
Yes! Very fun.
22:23 pdurbin
It's not that I don't like images. I just love text so much.
22:23 poikilotherm
:-D
22:23 pdurbin
There's another bot I've been thinking about adding. I got the idea from Public Lab.
22:24 poikilotherm
Lots of people are using this stuff :-) Kubernetes devs are using a lot of bots, too
22:24 poikilotherm
They do kinda chatops to interact with issues, too
22:25 pdurbin
Public Lab uses a bot on GitHub to welcome people who open issues for the first time, I think. I'm looking.
22:25 poikilotherm
Yeah, that's great stuff
22:25 poikilotherm
This github account could be used for this, too
22:26 pdurbin
Sure. And it has a good name. It's clear that it isn't a real person.
22:26 poikilotherm
https://github.com/probot/probot
22:27 pdurbin
This might be a good reference: https://publiclab.org/wiki/software-outreach#Friendly+Bots
22:27 poikilotherm
I thought about a more fancy name, but then sticked with nice and clean, but fancy avatar ;-)
22:28 pdurbin
"Copy welcomebot and first-timers-only templates into other projects" https://github.com/publiclab/plots2/issues/3681
22:28 poikilotherm
Ah I see they are using probot, too
22:28 pdurbin
Yeah, and https://github.com/hoodiehq/first-timers-bot which seems to be built on probot.
22:34 poikilotherm
Ok so I will just carry on and see how things work out, right?
22:34 pdurbin
Sure! Thanks!
22:34 poikilotherm
Depending on that you might consider taking a note at standup tomorrow ;-)
22:34 pdurbin
:)
22:34 poikilotherm
See how people react to having a machine among them
22:35 pdurbin
They might know about iqlogbot
22:35 poikilotherm
Ah, so it's just the new guy in town
22:36 poikilotherm
Strange guy, having a glass face and Dataverse in his head
22:37 pdurbin
He would have been very popular last week.
22:37 pdurbin
Maybe we should have a costume contest.
22:37 poikilotherm
LOL
22:38 poikilotherm
They would fit into the card deck, too
22:38 pdurbin
that card was awesome
22:38 pdurbin
I played a little Magic back in the day.
22:39 poikilotherm
Yeah me too ;-)
22:39 poikilotherm
It's been a while
22:39 pdurbin
My college roommate sometimes sends me pics of him and his kid playing Magic.
22:39 poikilotherm
I dislike the new layout, but I couldn't change it to the old ones :-/
22:55 poikilotherm
Ok, bedding time now. Will test the integration more deeply tomorrow.
22:55 poikilotherm
Nightinight
22:56 pdurbin
'night
