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10:46 pdurbin
stefankasberger: hi, did you see http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2019-10-29#i_111136 ?
10:57 poikilotherm
Morning pdurbin :-)
11:00 stefankasberger
Yes, thanks.
11:00 stefankasberger
Are you going to Tromso in January btw?
11:00 stefankasberger
Cause we could hack&talk maybe 1-2 days before the workshop.
11:04 poikilotherm
stefankasberger: we should convince pdurbin's wife to let him go...
11:04 poikilotherm
A while ago he told me she would kill him if was to go to Tromso, Lissabon and Brussels
11:05 poikilotherm
+he
11:05 pdurbin
I'd have to change my flights also. Let's look at the meetups at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EQsrT0A-zBQxN9L8iJBW-7auECWvFW2qu8r-CbWrTEw/edit#gid=0
11:06 poikilotherm
Maybe philipp can offer you some travel expanses...
11:06 pdurbin
Oh, I moved the "People" column over to the left, just after location
11:07 pdurbin
poikilotherm: sure, that would be great :)
11:08 poikilotherm
So you see a chance not getting killed by your wife?
11:08 pdurbin
I'd be like, "Honey, I'm an *invited* speaker. I can't say no." I'd still have to change my flights though. And it would be a longer time away from the family.
11:08 poikilotherm
:-D
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11:08 poikilotherm
pdurbin ROFLMAO. You just made my day.
11:11 poikilotherm
stefankasberger: I would love to do a hackathon in Tromso
11:11 poikilotherm
I was going to fly on Saturday, 1/18, Frankfurt -> Tromso
11:12 poikilotherm
But maybe it would suit better for Phil when we do a hackathon after the conf?
11:12 poikilotherm
pdurbin when are you heading for Lissabon?
11:12 poikilotherm
(on your current schedule)
11:13 poikilotherm
Pidapalooza is from 29-30 January (Wednesday after the conf)
11:14 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I land in Lisbon at 6am on Tuesday, Jan 28.
11:14 poikilotherm
Ok so how about having a hackathon on Monday?
11:15 poikilotherm
Let me check skyscanner if this is even possible
11:15 pdurbin
Do you mean Tuesday, the day I land in Lisbon? The 28th?
11:16 poikilotherm
Nope. Having a hackathon on Monday, travel to Lissabon on Tuesday.
11:16 poikilotherm
OMG.
11:16 poikilotherm
Tromso to Lissabon is an interesting trip
11:17 poikilotherm
~12 hours, at least 2 stops
11:17 pdurbin
Oh, sorry, you were talking to stefankasberger :)
11:17 poikilotherm
Nope, to you pdurbin
11:18 poikilotherm
If we are trying to plan for having a hackathon WITH you, we should take care we don't use more family time than necessary
11:18 pdurbin
I'm so confused.
11:19 poikilotherm
Oko let me start over
11:19 poikilotherm
Some assumptions
11:19 pdurbin
It sounds like you're suggesting that I change my flights. Is that right?
11:19 poikilotherm
Of course :-D
11:19 poikilotherm
I thought you might do that when you are invited ;-)
11:19 pdurbin
Ok, I'd rather not change my flights but go ahead.
11:20 poikilotherm
Now I'm confused
11:20 poikilotherm
[12:08] <pdurbin> I'd be like, "Honey, I'm an *invited* speaker. I can't say no." I'd still have to change my flights though. And it would be a longer time away from the family.
11:21 poikilotherm
That sounded like you might be interested...
11:21 poikilotherm
Sorry if I missunderstood sth
11:21 pdurbin
Maybe we should go with your idea of starting over. :) Yes, I'm interested but there's still a chance I'll be killed.
11:21 poikilotherm
Ok.
11:22 poikilotherm
Well let's assume for a moment, you are not going to be killed, you change flights and you get some travel expanses to Tromso.
11:23 poikilotherm
You would still need to get from Tromso (conference 1/23-1/25) to Lissabon (conference 1/29-1/30)
11:23 pdurbin
That's a fun thought. Can I bring my family too, since we're dreaming a bit? :)
11:23 poikilotherm
:-D
11:24 poikilotherm
Why not? It might be interesting to see your luggage
11:24 pdurbin
And please don't forget FOSDEM.
11:24 poikilotherm
-20°C something in Tromso, a few days later +10°C in Lissabon
11:25 pdurbin
brr
11:26 pdurbin
should be beautiful, even if a bit cold
11:26 poikilotherm
Ok, Pidapalooza and FOSDEM are consecutive. There is a small gap between 1/25 to 1/29 to have that hackathon without even consuming more family time, right?
11:27 pdurbin
How many days am I away from the family if I go to all three events?
11:27 poikilotherm
So my question is if we should (independent from you) do a hackathon with Slava, stefankasberger and many more in that timeslot.
11:27 poikilotherm
Lets see...
11:28 poikilotherm
12 to 13 days
11:28 pdurbin
That number will help determine my likelihood of being killed.
11:28 poikilotherm
Sounds like extinction
11:28 pdurbin
yeah
11:28 pdurbin
I don't like my odds.
11:29 poikilotherm
Meh.
11:29 poikilotherm
Not much we could do about that, couldn't we?
11:29 pdurbin
Can you and I hack a bit in Lisbon after (or during) PIDapalooza?
11:30 poikilotherm
It looks like I will not be in Lisboa
11:30 poikilotherm
But we can meet at FOSDEM
11:30 poikilotherm
Brussels is not far away and I was thinking about going there already last year
11:31 pdurbin
Oh! I thought you'd be in Lisbon. That's what the spreadsheet says.
11:32 poikilotherm
I left a comment a while ago...
11:32 pdurbin
"not yet sorted", ok
11:32 poikilotherm
From Düren to Brussels it's just a 2h trip by train
11:33 poikilotherm
Für 20 bucks
11:33 poikilotherm
s/ü/o/
11:33 pdurbin
I think it would be fun to list a Dataverse event at https://fosdem.org/2020/fringe/
11:34 poikilotherm
Sure. I dunno if we can get a room or sth from the FOSDEM organizers
11:38 pdurbin
They have full on dev rooms you can apply for. I'm planning on spending time in the "Open Source Design" room: https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-10-01-accepted-developer-rooms/
11:39 poikilotherm
Depending on how many people would like to join us, maybe we can just do a mini-hackathon there?
11:40 pdurbin
Sure, maybe. Again, I've never been to FOSDEM. I'm not sure what's involved in running a room. Plus I was hoping to wander a bit and check out talks, rooms, hallway tracks, etc.
11:41 poikilotherm
:-)
11:41 poikilotherm
That's what FOSDEM is about, isn't it?
11:42 pdurbin
Right but will I be shackled to a dev room if I get it accepted?
11:42 poikilotherm
I have no idea :-D
11:42 pdurbin
I'm thinking maybe a fringe event where we all go grab a beer or a coffee.
11:43 pdurbin
Where "we all" might be just me. :)
11:43 poikilotherm
Good idea :-)
11:44 pdurbin
I've been meaning to type up something about FOSDEM for the Dataverse mailing list anyway. Maybe I'll share some of these thoughts there.
11:51 pdurbin
I should bike to work first, though. :)
11:51 poikilotherm
Read you later :-)
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13:01 pdurbin
bjonnh: how's your sample dataset coming along? Do you need any help?
13:01 pdurbin
juancorr: did you see my pull request got merged? :)
13:22 poikilotherm
pdurbin: if you have a free minute, I'd like to talk with you about OIDC support...
13:25 pdurbin
poikilotherm: sure! Should I get a room so we can to a video or audio chat?
13:25 poikilotherm
Oh if you want, too, we can do that :-)
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13:25 poikilotherm
OMG what a sentence
13:25 poikilotherm
Let me start ove
13:25 pdurbin
Up to you. I have a design meeting in a little over half an hour I don't want to miss.
13:26 poikilotherm
Ok
13:26 poikilotherm
How much time do we loose in looking for a room / starting the VC?
13:26 pdurbin
Hard to say, lemme see if the room is locked.
13:27 * poikilotherm
*thumbs up*
13:29 pdurbin
got a room, pick your video system
13:29 poikilotherm
Zoom?
13:29 poikilotherm
Worked pretty smooth so far
13:30 pdurbin
Sure, please send me a link.
13:30 poikilotherm
https://zoom.us/j/217844799?pwd=QWNmUFhMWkhPWXdTSzEvaklseVlBdz09
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13:55 bjonnh
pdurbin: I will work on it later this week, I have to talk to the people that had issues and those who didn't
13:55 pdurbin
bjonnh: perfect. No rush! Lemme know if I can help. You're welcome to create datasets on the demo site and export from there. That's what I would do.
13:58 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I guess https://leancoffee.org is a good enough explanation of "lean coffee". Please keep in mind that what I'm talking about is *inspired* by it. In a true lean coffee meeting, the stickies are all blank and each attendee writes what they want to talk about. Then people vote. And you talk about the topic of the sticky with the most votes first.
13:58 poikilotherm
That looks nice. Thanks :-)
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16:07 pdurbin
Busy morning talking about https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5603
16:09 pdurbin
donsizemore: the morning has gotten away from me. Good afternoon! Are we still on at 3? Gustavo is back.
17:11 donsizemore
yis yis and i think i'm ready this time
17:13 donsizemore
while you're here: CentOS 8. because of psycopg2 versioning differences, RHEL /CentOS8 will require PostgresQL10. assuming API and unit tests come back cleanly, okay to bump that to the default?
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18:58 pdurbin
donsizemore: so sorry, meeting after meeting. Let me move over to Gustavo's office and we'll call you.
18:59 donsizemore
@pdurbin you should be down here and we could move it to a coffee shop!
19:02 pdurbin
that would be awesome
19:43 pdurbin
donsizemore: I just talked to Kevin. Thanks again.
20:18 pdurbin
merged!
21:04 donsizemore
@pdurbin Credentials ok. Connected to https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse
21:05 donsizemore
as thelma harper would say: "uh oh..." https://jenkins.dataverse.org/job/IQSS-Dataverse-Develop-PR/indexing/console
21:15 pdurbin
donsizemore: is there an "uh oh"? I'm happily watching https://jenkins.dataverse.org/job/IQSS-Dataverse-Develop-PR/view/change-requests/job/PR-6325/1/consoleFull :)
21:16 donsizemore
scanning grabbed the first four PRs then through a null pointer on the next and barfed
21:16 donsizemore
and i'm only trusting "contributors" a list of which dataversebot can't seem to grab
21:17 donsizemore
and then the ec2 script doesn't correctly pick up the repo, possibly due to ^^
21:17 donsizemore
so... stuff.
21:17 pdurbin
details :)
21:18 pdurbin
All I know is that PR-6325 is still chuggin' along and I'm quite happy about that. :)
21:18 pdurbin
How long have we been talking about this? Multiple years. Then you came along and built it. Thank you!
21:20 pdurbin
It's probably time for me to post an update on my "thoughts on automated testing" from May: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-dev/ISot5k4VjZQ/t-hzPk8tAwAJ
21:20 donsizemore
there's some stuff to iron out... but it was working on my silly little single-repo test!
21:20 pdurbin
I think we've nailed the first two items on the list in that post:
21:20 pdurbin
- Get https://jenkins.dataverse.org to do the same job that the older Jenkins server and phoenix do which is to catch regressions before a release.
21:20 pdurbin
- Get https://jenkins.dataverse.org to do a new job of catching regressions before merging pull requests.
21:21 pdurbin
Right?
21:21 pdurbin
Or we're close, at least.
21:22 donsizemore
i thought i had it building off of forks, i'll have to go back and retrace that part
21:22 pdurbin
gotcha
21:22 pdurbin
details :)
21:22 donsizemore
but first we need to get dataversebot able to pull a list of contributors (and/or open up the PR-builder to the world... gulp!)
21:22 donsizemore
you and gustavo were talking vetted-list in the first place, so maybe we'll grab a list of GH usernames
21:24 pdurbin
Were we? I say open it to the world. :)
21:24 pdurbin
(as the guy who doesn't pay the AMS bill)
21:24 pdurbin
AWS*
21:24 donsizemore
it's touted more of a security concern, but... i'll change it and rescan
21:25 donsizemore
PR #6325 completed, BTW: https://jenkins.dataverse.org/job/IQSS-Dataverse-Develop-PR/view/change-requests/job/PR-6325/1/
21:26 pdurbin
Cool. That AccessIT failure is expected, even on the develop branch. Here's where we're tracking it: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6322
21:27 pdurbin
Hmm, "GitHub has been notified of this commit’s build result" ... can we show that on the pull request somehow? The result?
21:27 donsizemore
oh. look at this: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6177
21:28 donsizemore
"unknown repository" leads to a 404. no wonder jenkins gets a nullpointer
21:30 donsizemore
yeah, #6325 is happy because it's from within IQSS.
21:32 donsizemore
i've got the test in place to pick up a fork https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/develop/tests/jenkins/ec2/Jenkinsfile#L22
21:35 donsizemore
@pdurbin ugh ugh ugh https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58450
21:39 donsizemore
okay, heading home. have a great evening!
21:46 pdurbin
Heh. " Fixed but Unreleased". Good find.
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