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IRC log for #dataverse, 2019-11-04

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Time S Nick Message
07:58 jri joined #dataverse
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10:56 poikilotherm joined #dataverse
11:07 pdurbin joined #dataverse
11:08 pdurbin spring ahead, fall back
11:08 pdurbin shoot, we missed Karl
11:08 pdurbin oh well, hopefully he comes back :)
11:09 poikilotherm Aye
11:09 poikilotherm To say it with Goethe:
11:09 poikilotherm Fetter grüne, du Laub,
11:09 poikilotherm Am Rebengeländer
11:09 poikilotherm Hier mein Fenster herauf!
11:09 poikilotherm Gedrängter quellet,
11:09 poikilotherm Zwillingsbeeren, and reifet
11:09 poikilotherm Schneller und glänzend voller!
11:09 poikilotherm Euch brütet der Mutter Sonne
11:09 poikilotherm Scheideblick, euch umsäuselt
11:09 poikilotherm Des holden Himmels
11:09 poikilotherm Fruchtende Fülle;
11:09 poikilotherm Euch kühlet des Mondes
11:09 poikilotherm Freundlicher Zauberhauch,
11:10 poikilotherm Und euch betauen, ach!
11:10 poikilotherm Aus diesen Augen
11:10 poikilotherm Der ewig belebenden Liebe
11:10 poikilotherm Vollschwellende Tränen.
11:10 poikilotherm Auto translation: https://www.deepl.com/translat[…]%C3%BChlet%20des%
11:10 poikilotherm 20Mondes%0AFreundlicher%20Zauberhauch%2C%0​AUnd%20euch%20betauen%2C%20ach!%0AAus%20di​esen%20Augen%0ADer%20ewig%20belebenden%20L​iebe%0AVollschwellende%20Tr%C3%A4nen.%0A
11:33 pdurbin "Fat green, you foliage,"
11:40 poikilotherm Oh BTW pdurbin: I came across http://plantuml.com/en/stdlib
11:44 poikilotherm I really enjoy the new K8s ones :-)
11:55 pdurbin huh, cool
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12:18 pdurbin I feel like IRC is a bit like improv. German poetry? Sure! Yes! Let's roll with that. :)
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12:34 pdurbin passing for the first time in two years: https://travis-ci.org/IQSS/dataverse-client-r/builds
12:34 poikilotherm Hooray!
12:36 pdurbin All thanks to a new maintainer: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-client-r/issues/21#issuecomment-549314976
12:39 pdurbin poikilotherm: it looks like Danny assigned this to you: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6332 (co-assigned it)
12:40 poikilotherm Yeah, I noticed that...
12:40 poikilotherm I am REALLY confused about this. That URL class loader thing is absolute standard and shouldn't affect performance
12:41 poikilotherm I smell fish. Rotten fish.
12:41 pdurbin I haven't dug into it at all. Can you replicate the issue at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6052 ?
12:41 poikilotherm Haven't tried yet
12:42 poikilotherm I'm also unsure how related problem and proposed solution are
12:42 pdurbin :)
12:44 pdurbin Ok. Can you give Jayanthy some moral support? An encouraging comment? I assume it's a real issue and that she's trying to fix it for a reason. How can we unblock her. How can we get something into code review?
12:45 poikilotherm Well she could adapt the docs, reflecting that with her proposed change this entire functionality will be removed.
12:45 poikilotherm You will need to decide if that's ok.
12:45 poikilotherm Maybe talk to Slava about this, too, AFAIR they introduced the code and use it, right?
12:45 poikilotherm At least someone should ping dataverse-i18n group
12:46 poikilotherm Right now I am not affected by that change. But it might become an issue for dataverse-k8s supporting i18n and of course for our own instance
12:47 poikilotherm Some day in the future we want to offer a dual language Dataverse experience
12:52 poikilotherm Ok to be fair: you can still ship your custom resource files. But you cannot choose a directory for it and you could set the property to "pumuckel"
12:52 poikilotherm Because the code only checks on null or empty
12:57 pdurbin If you could please leave her a comment, it would be great. I need to go meet with my contractor. We're moving on Saturday and there's still work to be done. :(
13:01 pdurbin You call all watch DataverseTV while I'm gone: https://iqss.github.io/dataverse-tv :)
14:00 pdurbin I was asked about other languages. I think all the videos are in English right now.
14:05 pdurbin https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6332 is an interesting case where a contributor (Jayanthy) made a pull request for an issue that's in our current sprint: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6052
15:41 pdurbin I just had a nice meeting with Courtney about DataverseTV. Here are the notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NdPCgVTmleXvslAqRUTS5_C3bVImTicjRXJu3MApYO0/edit?usp=sharing
16:13 pdurbin I just created https://dataverse.org/dataversetv
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20:04 pdurbin xarthisius: we just had a meeting about capsules and talked about Whole Tale quite a bit. Can I please pick your brain about a couple things? :)
20:33 xarthisius pdurbin: sure
20:36 pdurbin xarthisius: thanks! I'm looking for 3-5 examples of capsules that have been deposited from Whole Tale into DataONE. Is https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/data a good place to look for these?
20:37 xarthisius you mean *Tales* that have been deposited? :P
20:37 xarthisius it doesn't have to be DataONE: https://sandbox.zenodo.org/record/415162
20:38 pdurbin I guess so. Whatever you call them. :) Code Ocean calls them capsules. 5 of them are linked from https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6085#issuecomment-549526868
20:38 xarthisius https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/view/doi:10.5072/FK2BK1G80W
20:39 xarthisius https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/view/doi:10.5072/FK2Z89B02C
20:39 xarthisius but they're all "tests"
20:40 xarthisius DataONE is a bit problematic right now, since they don't support directory structure
20:41 pdurbin Tests are fine. Thanks! Is there an issue yet to track publishing tales in Dataverse?
20:41 xarthisius also there's nothing special about Tales/Capsules published somewhere, apart from the fact that they have  DOI
20:42 xarthisius you can go to dashboard.wholetale.org and export file as BagIt (zip) locally
20:42 xarthisius the content is the same as the data we "publish" to external repository, i.e. that would be the thing that would land in Dataverse
20:42 pdurbin Right, I was playing with that a few minutes ago and figured it's the same format.
20:43 xarthisius I don't remember if issue was filed for Dataverse, but it's actually next in the pipe in terms of publishers' suppport
20:44 xarthisius we're planning to support actual publishing workflows (i.e. curation / review process) using DV as an example
20:44 pdurbin Nice! Can you please send me a link after the issue exists? Or would it be helpful if I create it?
20:45 xarthisius I'll cc you when I find/file it.
20:46 pdurbin thanks!

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