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07:58  
     
 
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10:56  
     
 
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11:07  
     
 
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11:08  
     
pdurbin 
spring ahead, fall back 
 
        
11:08  
     
pdurbin 
shoot, we missed Karl 
 
        
11:08  
     
pdurbin 
oh well, hopefully he comes back :) 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Aye 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
To say it with Goethe: 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Fetter grüne, du Laub, 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Am Rebengeländer 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Hier mein Fenster herauf! 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Gedrängter quellet, 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Zwillingsbeeren, and reifet 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Schneller und glänzend voller! 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Euch brütet der Mutter Sonne 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Scheideblick, euch umsäuselt 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Des holden Himmels 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Fruchtende Fülle; 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Euch kühlet des Mondes 
 
        
11:09  
     
poikilotherm 
Freundlicher Zauberhauch, 
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
Und euch betauen, ach! 
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
Aus diesen Augen 
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
Der ewig belebenden Liebe 
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
Vollschwellende Tränen. 
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
Auto translation: https://www.deepl.com/translat[…]%C3%BChlet%20des%  
 
        
11:10  
     
poikilotherm 
20Mondes%0AFreundlicher%20Zauberhauch%2C%0AUnd%20euch%20betauen%2C%20ach!%0AAus%20diesen%20Augen%0ADer%20ewig%20belebenden%20Liebe%0AVollschwellende%20Tr%C3%A4nen.%0A 
 
        
11:33  
     
pdurbin 
"Fat green, you foliage," 
 
        
11:40  
     
poikilotherm 
Oh BTW pdurbin: I came across http://plantuml.com/en/stdlib  
 
        
11:44  
     
poikilotherm 
I really enjoy the new K8s ones :-) 
 
        
11:55  
     
pdurbin 
huh, cool 
 
        
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12:18  
     
pdurbin 
I feel like IRC  is a bit like improv. German poetry? Sure! Yes! Let's roll with that. :) 
 
        
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12:34  
     
pdurbin 
passing for the first time in two years: https://travis-ci.org/IQSS/dataverse-client-r/builds  
 
        
12:34  
     
poikilotherm 
Hooray! 
 
        
12:36  
     
pdurbin 
All thanks to a new maintainer: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-client-r/issues/21#issuecomment-549314976  
 
        
12:39  
     
pdurbin 
poikilotherm: it looks like Danny assigned this to you: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6332  (co-assigned it) 
 
        
12:40  
     
poikilotherm 
Yeah, I noticed that... 
 
        
12:40  
     
poikilotherm 
I am REALLY confused about this. That URL  class loader thing is absolute standard and shouldn't affect performance 
 
        
12:41  
     
poikilotherm 
I smell fish. Rotten fish. 
 
        
12:41  
     
pdurbin 
I haven't dug into it at all. Can you replicate the issue at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6052  ? 
 
        
12:41  
     
poikilotherm 
Haven't tried yet 
 
        
12:42  
     
poikilotherm 
I'm also unsure how related problem and proposed solution are 
 
        
12:42  
     
pdurbin 
:) 
 
        
12:44  
     
pdurbin 
Ok. Can you give Jayanthy some moral support? An encouraging comment? I assume it's a real issue and that she's trying to fix it for a reason. How can we unblock her. How can we get something into code review? 
 
        
12:45  
     
poikilotherm 
Well she could adapt the docs, reflecting that with her proposed change this entire functionality will be removed. 
 
        
12:45  
     
poikilotherm 
You will need to decide if that's ok. 
 
        
12:45  
     
poikilotherm 
Maybe talk to Slava about this, too, AFAIR they introduced the code and use it, right? 
 
        
12:45  
     
poikilotherm 
At least someone should ping dataverse-i18n group 
 
        
12:46  
     
poikilotherm 
Right now I am not affected by that change. But it might become an issue for dataverse-k8s supporting i18n and of course for our own instance 
 
        
12:47  
     
poikilotherm 
Some day in the future we want to offer a dual language Dataverse experience 
 
        
12:52  
     
poikilotherm 
Ok to be fair: you can still ship your custom resource files. But you cannot choose a directory for it and you could set the property to "pumuckel" 
 
        
12:52  
     
poikilotherm 
Because the code only checks on null or empty 
 
        
12:57  
     
pdurbin 
If you could please leave her a comment, it would be great. I need to go meet with my contractor. We're moving on Saturday and there's still work to be done. :( 
 
        
13:01  
     
pdurbin 
You call all watch DataverseTV while I'm gone: https://iqss.github.io/dataverse-tv  :) 
 
        
14:00  
     
pdurbin 
I was asked about other languages. I think all the videos are in English right now. 
 
        
14:05  
     
pdurbin 
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6332  is an interesting case where a contributor (Jayanthy) made a pull request for an issue that's in our current sprint: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6052  
 
        
15:41  
     
pdurbin 
I just had a nice meeting with Courtney about DataverseTV. Here are the notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NdPCgVTmleXvslAqRUTS5_C3bVImTicjRXJu3MApYO0/edit?usp=sharing  
 
        
16:13  
     
pdurbin 
I just created https://dataverse.org/dataversetv  
 
        
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20:04  
     
pdurbin 
xarthisius: we just had a meeting about capsules and talked about Whole Tale quite a bit. Can I please pick your brain about a couple things? :) 
 
        
20:33  
     
xarthisius 
pdurbin: sure 
 
        
20:36  
     
pdurbin 
xarthisius: thanks! I'm looking for 3-5 examples of capsules that have been deposited from Whole Tale into DataONE. Is https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/data  a good place to look for these? 
 
        
20:37  
     
xarthisius 
you mean *Tales* that have been deposited? :P 
 
        
20:37  
     
xarthisius 
it doesn't have to be DataONE: https://sandbox.zenodo.org/record/415162  
 
        
20:38  
     
pdurbin 
I guess so. Whatever you call them. :) Code Ocean calls them capsules. 5 of them are linked from https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6085#issuecomment-549526868  
 
        
20:38  
     
xarthisius 
https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/view/doi:10.5072/FK2BK1G80W  
 
        
20:39  
     
xarthisius 
https://search-stage-2.test.dataone.org/view/doi:10.5072/FK2Z89B02C  
 
        
20:39  
     
xarthisius 
but they're all "tests" 
 
        
20:40  
     
xarthisius 
DataONE is a bit problematic right now, since they don't support directory structure 
 
        
20:41  
     
pdurbin 
Tests are fine. Thanks! Is there an issue yet to track publishing tales in Dataverse? 
 
        
20:41  
     
xarthisius 
also there's nothing special about Tales/Capsules published somewhere, apart from the fact that they have  DOI 
 
        
20:42  
     
xarthisius 
you can go to dashboard.wholetale.org and export file as BagIt (zip) locally 
 
        
20:42  
     
xarthisius 
the content is the same as the data we "publish" to external repository, i.e. that would be the thing that would land in Dataverse 
 
        
20:42  
     
pdurbin 
Right, I was playing with that a few minutes ago and figured it's the same format. 
 
        
20:43  
     
xarthisius 
I don't remember if issue was filed for Dataverse, but it's actually next in the pipe in terms of publishers' suppport 
 
        
20:44  
     
xarthisius 
we're planning to support actual publishing workflows (i.e. curation / review process) using DV as an example 
 
        
20:44  
     
pdurbin 
Nice! Can you please send me a link after the issue exists? Or would it be helpful if I create it? 
 
        
20:45  
     
xarthisius 
I'll cc you when I find/file it. 
 
        
20:46  
     
pdurbin 
thanks!