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IRC log for #dataverse, 2019-12-06

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12:01 pdurbin Happy St. Nicholas Day
12:01 poikilotherm :-)
12:02 poikilotherm My kiddies were so happy when they found that St. Nicholas put sth in their boots
12:05 pdurbin This is the first year we've celebrated. My wife grew up with this tradition (both sides of her family are very German). Our kids are very happy too.
12:07 poikilotherm I have not looked if St. Nikolaus put sth. in dataversebots boots, too. Maybe he heard that poor bot wishes for a webhook in dataverse-sample-data
12:10 pdurbin Heh. Sure, I can set that up. Please remind me. Do you want to talk about OIDC (which I brought up after standup yesterday) or getting off Glassfish (I see you commented)?
12:10 poikilotherm :-D
12:10 poikilotherm Sure.
12:10 poikilotherm Both :-D
12:11 poikilotherm But not much news for OIDC yet
12:17 pdurbin Well, for OIDC, can you please create a pull request to add a release note? I think you're familiar with this (relatively new) process.
12:18 pdurbin Something we can copy and paste into the release notes for the next release of Dataverse.
12:20 pdurbin poikilotherm: in the doc/release-notes directory.
12:20 poikilotherm Are you guys planing for a new release before 2020?
12:21 poikilotherm Just asking so I can estimate what to write ;-)
12:21 pdurbin I never know. We always try to stay "release ready".
12:21 poikilotherm Okidoki
12:21 poikilotherm No problem. Issue, too?
12:21 poikilotherm Or just PR as addendum?
12:21 pdurbin Please nothing too long. It should be high level. Please look at recent release notes to get an idea.
12:22 poikilotherm Of course
12:22 poikilotherm I already wrote some of these :-D
12:22 poikilotherm (2?)
12:22 pdurbin Up to you. A PR against the same issue is fine. Or you can make a fresh one. Or you can have it close your epic.
12:22 poikilotherm Nope, my epic contains more stuff we need ;-)
12:22 poikilotherm For now this is just basic support
12:22 poikilotherm But not using all the benefits of an IDM/IAM
12:23 pdurbin Right. Basic support is huge though, I think.
12:23 pdurbin Probably deserves to be the top item in the release notes.
12:26 poikilotherm Should I call it experimental?
12:26 pdurbin Well, how well tested is it?
12:27 poikilotherm No automated tests yet, but should be ok
12:28 pdurbin Not tested at all by QA.
12:30 poikilotherm Meh
14:38 pdurbin poikilotherm: meh? :)
15:07 MrK pdurbin: Hey, do you still have the list with differences between slack competitors?
15:08 pdurbin MrK: well, I have this "Examples of communities that use the Searchable Linkable Open Public Indexed (SLOPI) communication style" spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvG3XTd5YwA-SliOUCavQgqfK1jLVnlL9tuUsjHR0Ik/edit#gid=0 . Does that help?
15:10 MrK Didn't you had something like comparing gitter to slack and other communicators? I remember when we talked about it when you wanted to migrate from IRC.
15:11 pdurbin MrK: let me look. I do remember something.
15:29 pdurbin MrK: let's see. This isn't what you asked for but I'd love feedback on this "Dataverse Community Chat Requirements" spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lBm5HYhi0RFbfSYhsl2Is5z35PhOV2h1S8ZGIVoUSj8/edit?usp=sharing :)
15:31 pdurbin MrK: this is a little more what you're asking for: "SLOPI chat, alternatives to Slack" - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NgPPpzjlzYjcEw0oFe_nNvuxtPXDZs6Z-fa_q42oJkU/edit?usp=sharing
15:31 pdurbin MrK: are you trying to pick a chat system? Are you considering Gitter?
15:34 MrK pdurbin: I was just looking around for alternatives, but we probably won't change slack any time soon so just curiosity.
15:39 MrK thx
15:40 MrK Oh yeah 1 thing is frustrating me on irc, when you lock your laptop you are logged out of irc, so when you come back you have different nickname. And if someone is writing to you while you lose connection you also won't receive the message.
15:52 pdurbin Yeah, that's exactly why I run my IRC client (weechat) in a screen session. But I don't expect normal people to do that. :)
21:27 pdurbin Wow, where does the time go. Getting pretty dark here. Have a good weekend, everybody! See you Monday.
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