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11:06 Youssef_Ouahalou
Hello everybody ☺
11:06 poikilotherm
Hi Youssef_Ouahalou
12:05 MrK
Hi
12:07 poikilotherm
Hi MrK
12:09 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: did you see that people from UCLouvain are coming to FOSDEM? http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2019-12-16#i_114844
12:19 Youssef_Ouahalou
I had absolutely no idea it's good to know
12:23 pdurbin
Sounds like they plan to go into production with Dataverse in January.
12:23 pdurbin
just like poikilotherm
12:24 pdurbin
poikilotherm: this was a very nice tweet: https://twitter.com/poi_ki_lo_therm/status/1206868693692669952
12:24 poikilotherm
:-)
12:24 poikilotherm
Thank you
12:24 poikilotherm
Yours was very nice, too
12:25 pdurbin
Did you see Oracle replied? That was unexpected. :)
12:25 Youssef_Ouahalou
It is really interesting what you tell me there, I hope that we will all have the opportunity to meet. Why are you not on this list? https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/events/
12:26 poikilotherm
Oh I didn't see that yet... Must have happened after my comment :-)
12:26 poikilotherm
Youssef_Ouahalou pdurbin I do hope to come to FOSDEM, too
12:27 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: uh oh. I guess that means my lightning talk wasn't accepted. :(
12:29 pdurbin
poikilotherm: when will you know for sure?
12:29 Youssef_Ouahalou
oooh :(, I hope you would still be here @poikilotherm @pdurbin
12:30 poikilotherm
pdurbin: Maybe when I return from Norway :-D
12:30 poikilotherm
It all depends on construction site, kids and most importantly: wife ;-)
12:31 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: my flights are booked. I'll be there. Three nights.
12:32 pdurbin
I guess I can go ahead and email the dataverse-community list about it.
12:33 pdurbin
I was hoping to announce that my lightning talk was accepted. But again, it looks like it wasn't. I mean, I didn't get an email that it wasn't accepted but it doesn't seem to be on the schedule.
12:34 pdurbin
Oh! It says " Lightning talks have not been scheduled yet. " at https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/
12:34 pdurbin
so maybe there is still hope :)
12:35 Youssef_Ouahalou
@poikilotherm haha yes i understand , @pdurbin Ah okay it's cool then,but I think they have yet to display everything
12:36 Youssef_Ouahalou
@pdurbin haha yes i also think
12:36 * pdurbin
crosses fingers
12:38 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I'm feeling pretty blocked on getting off Glassfish 4. I can easily confirm the reported bugs but I have no idea how to fix them. I'm not very strong with JSF.
12:38 pdurbin
MrK: are you interested in upgrading from Glassfish 4?
12:39 MrK
pdurbin: in our fork we went to 4.1.2 since there were issues with eclipse-link, using streams for collections in entities to be exact.
12:41 pdurbin
MrK: interesting. Have you tried going to Payara 5?
12:42 MrK
pdurbin: no, personally if I wanted to switch I would try switching to Spring.
12:43 MrK
but there are more problems than container, so we are just focusing on code quality.
12:43 pdurbin
Oh. Spring. What about Quarkus?
12:46 pdurbin
MrK: would you stay with JSF?
12:47 MrK
pdurbin: Quarkus? Big no from me. Last time when I was at Devoxx there were Red Hat guys promoting it and they were saying that it's not production ready back then. The only benefit I saw was startup time, but that's not the issue in dataverse since I don't think there will be a situation where someone will want 1k instances to boot in 1s. It's just not that kind of a system. I don't see how it is any better than spring, spring is mature, a
12:47 MrK
lot of "add-ons" security/reactive etc., completely different approach to integration testing (better, we have problems with arquillian atm.).
12:49 MrK
pdurbin: I hate JSF so no :P, there is a reason it was abandoned.
12:49 pdurbin
Would you use SpringMVC instead? Or something else?
12:50 MrK
pdurbin: Just classic Spring REST + Angular/React + Typescript
12:51 pdurbin
Ok, I think I'd be a bit more eager to learn React than Angular.
12:52 MrK
pdurbin: I don't know either but we are using both atm at our company.
12:52 pdurbin
MrK: did you see that TypeScript is supported by https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-client-javascript ?
12:52 MrK
pdurbin: Oh didn't know that :P
12:55 pdurbin
Would it make sense to combine dataverse-client-javascript with React?
13:08 MrK
pdurbin: Hard to answer, since I'm not into frontend yet, but probably.
13:16 pdurbin
MrK: I guess I'm wondering if we can at least use the same front end code. :)
13:17 MrK
pdurbin: Well frontend without jsf is just a dream for me now, so I don't treat it like it's gonna happen during my lifetime :D
13:18 pdurbin
I feel the same way.
13:51 poikilotherm
Oi pdurbin: community call today?
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14:33 pdurbin
poikilotherm: yes, in half an hour, all are welcome. Call in information at https://dataverse.org/community-calls
14:33 pdurbin
andrewSC bjonnh bricas donsizemore jri juancorr pmauduit Youssef_Ouahalou ^^
14:34 poikilotherm
Did you attend the (yesterday) call?
14:34 donsizemore
@pdurbin I'll call in but I'm delighted to have to drop off for our CoRe2 meeting at 1030 =)
14:36 pdurbin
poikilotherm: sort of. I forgot about it until half an hour in. I heard Steve McE talk about Binder at the end when he saw me join. The new Dataverse/Binder integration. CoRe2 uses Binder, I believe. Cool that you're calling in, donsizemore :)
14:36 poikilotherm
pdurbin: someone had questions about K8s...
14:37 pdurbin
Yeah, I wish it was recorded. No idea what those questions were. Can you please ask during the call today?
14:37 pdurbin
Actually, for everyone, it's best to go ahead and add your questions to the google doc now.
14:37 poikilotherm
Sure
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16:15 nightowl313
hi there...in my continuing saga of trying to get shibboleth working behind an AWS ELB, I have since found out that the issue that I'm experienced is being caused by shibboleth dropping the session when both the ALB cookie and application cookie is returned by the ALB. It is only expecting the application cookie and not identifying the current session (per AWS tech support). I believe that I need to add elements to my Sessions element i
16:15 nightowl313
has anyone come across this issue with Dataverse as the web app?
16:15 nightowl313
any suggestions as to how to format the directives?
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16:58 pdurbin
Huh. Add elements to the Sessions element. I have no idea.
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19:16 poikilotherm
pdurbin: you might take a look at https://dataverse-k8s.readthedocs.io/en/latest/images/dataverse-k8s.html
19:17 pdurbin
Thanks. In a bit. I'm in a call about https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/osshealthindex and then tech hours.
19:17 poikilotherm
Nice
19:17 poikilotherm
I'm off for today! Read you all tomorrow guys :-)
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21:26 nightowl313
pdurbin: i finally got it working. In case anyone else struggles with this, I had the target group in AWS configured to route on port 80 instead of port 443...that was all. I thought the listeners redirected that, but apparently not. I will update the ticket that I added in github to reflect this as well.
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22:20 pdurbin
Awesome! And thanks for updating https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6449 !
