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09:36 poikilotherm
pdurbin: those scripts by jggautier look very interesting
09:36 poikilotherm
It's those kind of scripts I meant yesterday...
09:36 poikilotherm
Many could benefit from such scripts
09:37 poikilotherm
And it would be awesome to have them in one place, properly documented etc
09:37 poikilotherm
We could call it "dvctl" like "kubectl" ;-)
10:04 MrK
poikilotherm: In terms of settings we made it more simple, we moved most of the stuff to properties file like Spring does it. https://github.com/CeON/dataverse/blob/develop/dataverse-webapp/src/main/resources/config/dataverse.default.properties
10:05 poikilotherm
Nice!
10:05 poikilotherm
I do hope that once we are on Payara, we can finally enable the use of MicroProfile Config API
10:06 MrK
What's that?
10:07 MrK
Probably like config in the code?
10:07 poikilotherm
https://microprofile.io/project/eclipse/microprofile-config
10:10 MrK
Ah so it's kinda similar, we also have a system where properties file takes priority over db config
10:10 poikilotherm
Payara offers inbuilt support for more sources
10:10 poikilotherm
Like Kubernetes ConfigMap etc
10:11 MrK
Yeah, that's cool. Next step would be to make payara embedded probably.
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10:11 MrK
I think it's called payara micro then
10:13 stefankasberger
@pdurbing: is it going later too? am busy right now. when not, January 2nd would be okay too.
10:15 stefankasberger
@pdurbin: see above. :)
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11:45 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I'm glad you like those scripts
11:46 poikilotherm
I didn't look deeply inside them, but it looks like those might be usefull for others, too
11:46 pdurbin
They seem to have been written to address real needs.
11:54 pdurbin
jri_: did you see this? "Good news at the close of 2019: @DataverseNO has been selected as one of 12 repositories to get support from @FAIRsFAIR_EU to improve its level of interoperability, together with two other @dataverseorg repositories, @DataInra + @sciencespo. https://bit.ly/396CBG2 #FAIRdata #RDM" https://twitter.com/DataverseNO/status/1207898791527043072
12:03 pdurbin
poikilotherm: do you feel like doing any housekeeping on the Payara board? Some issues have been closed: https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/16
12:03 poikilotherm
Actually I thought about tearing down the board. I'm not using it, neither is anyone else.
12:04 pdurbin
I'm fine with closing it. Would you like to do the honors?
12:04 poikilotherm
Sure
12:05 poikilotherm
Done
12:05 poikilotherm
I don't have rights to delete it.
12:06 pdurbin
Meh, let's keep it for now. At least it has been closed. Have you tried Gustavo's branch lately?
12:11 poikilotherm
Nope, not yet.
12:11 poikilotherm
I'm still busy with the docs
12:11 poikilotherm
More work than expected, as I rewrite them partly into a better guide format
12:12 pdurbin
Yeah, docs take forever. But they're worth it.
12:12 pdurbin
Anyway, I just deployed the latest to http://ec2-3-90-223-91.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080 but I have javax.faces.PROJECT_STAGE set to Development so JSF warnings are shown.
12:15 * poikilotherm
*thumbs up*
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12:23 pdurbin
poikilotherm: are you out of here soon? After today I'll be out until Jan 2nd.
13:07 poikilotherm
Was AFK for a while...
13:07 poikilotherm
Yes, I'll be outta here in ~1.75h
13:07 poikilotherm
Returning on 02/01/2020
13:07 poikilotherm
Roaring Twenties ahead
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13:35 pdurbin
Heh. Yep. Well, it sounds like our holidays line up exactly. See you in the new year.
13:35 poikilotherm
:-)
13:36 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: did you get my email reply? I put that FOSDEM "fringe" event idea out there. :)
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13:38 pdurbin
poikilotherm: how would you translate "Denkt über @dataverseorg nach - großartige Software"? From https://twitter.com/Duhem_/status/1207994412573364224
13:39 poikilotherm
Let me put that into context:
13:40 poikilotherm
Kerstin Helbig is asking for tips how to raise awareness and usage
13:40 poikilotherm
https://twitter.com/FrauHelbig/status/1207934932905017344
13:41 poikilotherm
Jochen replies with "nothing in particular. maybe you should think about (deploying) Dataverse - a great software"
13:42 poikilotherm
Kerstin works at Humboldt University Berlin in the RDM department
13:42 pdurbin
nice
13:42 poikilotherm
So his last sentence about looking what cool stuff they are doing at HU Berlin is rather ironic ;-)
13:44 pdurbin
coolen
13:44 poikilotherm
That's Denglish
13:44 poikilotherm
Deutsch (German) + English
13:44 pdurbin
:)
13:44 poikilotherm
"cool" is used in spoken german rather often
13:45 poikilotherm
Don't use it in formal language ;-)
13:45 poikilotherm
Maybe a bit like "uber"
13:45 pdurbin
perfect for tweets
13:45 poikilotherm
That's going back to german "über"
13:45 poikilotherm
You wouldn't use "uber" in formal english, would you?
13:46 pdurbin
Hmm, maybe.
13:46 MrK
Well I use it as an app so
13:47 MrK
It can be mentioned in formal english :D
13:47 poikilotherm
Yeah, but it's Uber then ;-)
13:49 pdurbin
I agree with this: "Uber- as a prefix wasn’t common, except in reference to Nietzsche" https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/07/26/the-long-strange-journey-uber/6DFRmI3xcKJdXUtljsDktO/story.html
13:50 pdurbin
Anyway, I'm putting off getting on my bike. "Feels like" -17 C today. Warmer than yesterday. Time to go.
13:50 poikilotherm
We have +10°C here
13:51 poikilotherm
@all: wish you a merry christmas
13:51 pdurbin
Maybe while I'm gone poikilotherm and MrK can debate the merits of Matrix, which I mentioned at https://github.com/IQSS/chat.dataverse.org/issues/7#issuecomment-567757434 :)
13:51 poikilotherm
See you next year guys :-)
13:51 MrK
See you :P
13:51 Youssef_Ouahalou
@pdurbin Sorry i haven't seen the email yet, i think benjamin will respond soon
13:51 poikilotherm
As we say in german: "Guten Rutsch!"
13:51 Youssef_Ouahalou
Thank you for your reply
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13:55 MrK
pdurbin: I'm gonna be back 7th January :p
13:55 poikilotherm
Holy s**t https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6475 is HGUE
13:58 MrK
poikilotherm: hahaha, a little missclick
13:59 MrK
poikilotherm: If you are on the fork you gotta change the organization with every PR.
13:59 poikilotherm
:-D
13:59 poikilotherm
Yeah
13:59 poikilotherm
It's impressing how much stuff you guys did...
14:00 poikilotherm
It's a pity we are moving away from each other
14:01 MrK
poikilotherm: Thx :P, well you know, that's why we are meeting in Tromso, to talk about stuff :D.
14:01 poikilotherm
YEah
14:39 pdurbin
MrK: the 7th. Ok.
14:44 Youssef_Ouahalou
is it possible to add a help block where we want?
14:45 pdurbin
Where do you want it?
14:45 Youssef_Ouahalou
For example next to the keyword block in the citation
14:46 pdurbin
Hmm. What would it say?
14:47 pdurbin
What help do your users need?
14:49 Youssef_Ouahalou
“You can either use terms from an existing vocabulary (e.g. NACE codes), in which case you should mention the name of the vocabulary and, if possible, a URL that links to it; or you can add your own keywords to describe your dataset.”
14:51 Youssef_Ouahalou
It's just to be sure that they understand correctly, and on the other hand to know if I am able to do it so to train
14:52 pdurbin
What they see right now are these, right? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.18.1/src/main/java/propertyFiles/citation.properties#L101
14:52 pdurbin
You can customize these if you want. By putting your own "properties" files in the right place.
14:58 Youssef_Ouahalou
yes i have already seen this file but i would like to know if it was possible to add something like this: <p class = "help-block"> <span class = "text-muted"> ... </span> </ P>
15:00 pdurbin
Well, maybe you could add it with Javascript? If you put some Javascript in a custom header or footer? I'm not sure. Do you think other installations might want something similar? If so, I would suggest creating an issue (with a screenshot, please).
15:02 Youssef_Ouahalou
Do you know how I could add it to the citation metadata for example?
15:04 pdurbin
Well, I'm trying to figure out what we would call it if it were a new feature. "Additional optional help blocks"?
15:05 Youssef_Ouahalou
Yes that's right
15:11 pdurbin
Ok, I think you should create an issue about this. With a screenshot explaining where the help block would be located. If you don't mind.
15:18 Youssef_Ouahalou
Thanks, I will do that
15:19 pdurbin
Thanks!
15:35 Youssef_Ouahalou
with pleasure ☺
15:35 Youssef_Ouahalou
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6476
15:39 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: the screenshot helps a lot. Thank you!
15:39 Youssef_Ouahalou
thanks to you too ☺
15:40 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: oh, did I encourage you to create a board for your installation? Like the ones at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-installations/issues/45 ? You should.
15:43 Youssef_Ouahalou
What is this for ? Is it to list our work?
15:45 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: It is to list which bugs you want to be fixed. And which features you want.
15:46 pdurbin
This one, for example, has two columns called "interest" and "needed": https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/12
15:46 pdurbin
I think jri_ helped create that board.
15:49 Youssef_Ouahalou
Ok thank you advise, I will try to create this next week
15:51 pdurbin
Youssef_Ouahalou: great. Before you can create a board you have to accept the invitation I just sent you. An invitation to join https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/teams/dataverse-readonly/members
15:56 Youssef_Ouahalou
Thank you very much, I accept the invitation
16:02 pdurbin
coolen
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18:27 Youssef_Ouahalou
I wish you all a good holiday and happy new year in advance 😃
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18:31 pdurbin
:)
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21:03 pdurbin
Ok, folks. I'm heading out. Happy holidays! Happy New Year! I'll be back on January 2nd.
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