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00:05 pdurbin
whoops! missed her. from https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/MQjUhPLSzzU/BO_aH05OCQAJ
00:06 pdurbin
who do we know in other timezones? :)
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09:04 Benjamin_Peuch
Great things, everybody.
09:05 Benjamin_Peuch
Hey poikilotherm, thanks a lot for pinpointing the moment in the second video pdurbin mentioned (thanks a lot to you, too!). I started watching the larger vid yesterday but I did not have enough time to find the exact spot.
09:05 poikilotherm
Benjamin_Peuch: sure! You're most welcome
09:05 Benjamin_Peuch
I'll make sure to pass the message to our own legal expert. It certainly sounds like a thing whose implications we must get right, but also like you said something we must inform your users about.
09:06 poikilotherm
Well as you folks are an archive yourself, you definitely should take care of that... ;-)
09:06 poikilotherm
Jülich DATA as an institutional repo is unlikely to be in trouble
09:07 Benjamin_Peuch
Very true poikilotherm, hahaha.
09:07 Benjamin_Peuch
We archivists take pride in being aware of the legal remit of our work.
09:08 Benjamin_Peuch
But it's all become so much more complex to navigate in the world of open access, open science, open data, with the arrival of the FAIR principles, the PSI directives, and so on and so on (Zizek sniff).
09:10 poikilotherm
Yeah, life doesn't get easier.
09:13 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: you're welcome.
09:15 pdurbin
pkiraly: hi! poikilotherm and I were talking about some of your ideas the other day: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2020-02-26#i_119325
09:16 poikilotherm
pdurbin!
09:16 poikilotherm
What happened? Did our chatter wake you up?
09:17 Benjamin_Peuch
I did tag him. :p
09:18 pdurbin
I think I'm still over caffeinated from yesterday. Had lunch with a friend. Then he bought me a coffee. How could I say no.
09:18 poikilotherm
Poor pdurbin
09:18 poikilotherm
Should we send you some sheeps to count?
09:18 Benjamin_Peuch
Was it good coffee?
09:19 Benjamin_Peuch
We have a new research project here about the history of coffee. It was soberly baptized "the Robusta project".
09:19 pdurbin
There's so much cool stuff going on. Did you watch the two new videos on DataverseTV about controlled vocabulary proposals? Did you see the new DataverseTV redesign? https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1233181172886319104
09:21 poikilotherm
That design is indeed looking good :-)
09:22 pdurbin
Please feel free to leave a comment. This is Erik's first pull request ever.
09:22 pdurbin
I told him you sometimes have to be patient when you make a pull request.
09:22 pdurbin
Even when you share an office with one of the maintainers (me).
09:22 Benjamin_Peuch
Oooh CVs
09:24 poikilotherm
I really hope that IQSS doesn't get overloaded by the sheer amount of stuff going on...
09:24 pdurbin
It's definitely a challenge.
09:25 pdurbin
Should you focus on grant deliverables? Yes!
09:25 poikilotherm
Having the impression that the community is ramping up contributions, but that might be a false positive
09:25 pdurbin
Should you be responsive to your open source community? Yes!
09:25 pdurbin
Should you sleep? Yes!
09:25 poikilotherm
pdurbin go get some more of it!
09:26 pdurbin
poikilotherm: hmm, that sounds like my crazy idea of "Outsiders" (but for pull requests): http://wiki.greptilian.com/ideas/ ... "Outsiders would allow you easily filter your GitHub issues down to the ones that weren't created by members of the project. An example query would be is:open repo:pdurbin/addressbookmvc -author:pdurbin -author:dhutty."
09:29 pdurbin
poikilotherm: before going to sleep I wrote this: http://blog.greptilian.com/2020/02/27/oidc-really-works/ ... I was thinking about adding a quote or two from yesterdays IRC log. There were some classic moments. :)
09:30 poikilotherm
https://chaoss.community/
09:30 pkiraly
pdurbin: He and thanks! I was off for some days, I'll check it this morning, now I am busy with other parts of Dataverse
09:30 pdurbin
poikilotherm: check out the Jan 2020 post at https://chaoss.community/media/ :)
09:31 pdurbin
pkiraly: great! Oh, I noticed a typo in the guides if you'd like to make another pull request. Thanks for all the PRs while I was on vacation!!
09:31 poikilotherm
https://devstats.cncf.io/
09:33 poikilotherm
pdurbin: oh yeah! nice! :-D
09:33 pdurbin
poikilotherm: devstats is new to me. Thanks! Did you see the sciencehealth link at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2020-02-27#i_119710 ?
09:34 poikilotherm
Yes, I tried it, but the app isn't loading :-(
09:35 pdurbin
Hmm. What if you start at http://science.osshealth.io ?
09:36 pdurbin
Oh, cool. github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes is at http://science.osshealth.io/group/January%202020%20New%20/overview
09:36 pdurbin
Just like I asked for. :)
09:36 poikilotherm
Ah there you go!
09:37 pdurbin
poikilotherm: check out your awesome project (and thanks again, as always!!) http://science.osshealth.io/repo/January%202020%20New%20/dataverse-kubernetes/overview
09:37 poikilotherm
pdurbin: in the view of Dataverse I doubt the numbers...
09:38 poikilotherm
Victoria Lubitch has a major contribution in 2019 with ~970k lines of code
09:38 pdurbin
yeah
09:38 pdurbin
I've been meaning to tell Sean about that.
09:39 pdurbin
poikilotherm Benjamin_Peuch if you had hung out with me and Youssef_Ouahalou at FOSDEM, you could have met Sean (and Matt): https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1223627494881988612
09:40 pdurbin
and yoh: https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1223987847222431744
09:41 poikilotherm
:-D
09:41 poikilotherm
Better luck next time
09:41 poikilotherm
Thx for the shoutout at http://blog.greptilian.com/2020/02/27/oidc-really-works/
09:42 pdurbin
Sure! I still haven't tried logging into your installation of Dataverse with HarvardKey, GitHub, and ORCID and still being "me" in Dataverse. Should I try it now?
09:43 Benjamin_Peuch
pdurbin: I missed the beer, too! (What do you mean, priorities?)
09:43 poikilotherm
What kind of classic moment did you want to share?
09:43 poikilotherm
Didn't you want to get some sleep?
09:43 pdurbin
Yeah, I should sleep. But I'm pretty wound up.
09:43 pdurbin
I'm like my kids. Won't go to bed.
09:43 pdurbin
Or my kids are like me, I guess.
09:43 poikilotherm
LOL
09:44 poikilotherm
If you feel like it, go ahead and try :-)
09:44 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: it's legal to drink on the street in Belgium! I blogged about this at http://blog.greptilian.com/2020/02/07/advancing-science-with-dataverse/
09:45 poikilotherm
pdurbin: same in Germany ;-)
09:45 pdurbin
poikilotherm: why didn't you tell me in Berlin?!?
09:45 poikilotherm
Maybe because I don't drink any alcohol?
09:46 pdurbin
ah
09:46 pdurbin
but at least you drink coffee
09:47 poikilotherm
In Berlin drinking alcohol was prohibited from 1999 till 2006
09:47 poikilotherm
Some other cities have rules for this, too
09:48 pdurbin
It was worse in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
09:48 poikilotherm
But you can sue them and chances are that the prohibition will be sacked
09:49 pdurbin
this makes me want to cry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States#/media/File:5_Prohibition_Disposal (9)_(cropped).jpg
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09:51 pdurbin
Oh, here's something new and Dataverse-y. It's apparently technically possible to go ahead and list yourself as an attendee of the Dataverse Community Meeting in June: https://dcm2020.sched.com/directory/attendees
10:04 poikilotherm
pdurbin I just created https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6706 in the hope that we get a discussion going on your side...
10:08 poikilotherm
I hope djbrooke doesn't mind that I took the liberty of assigning scolapasta
10:09 pdurbin
poikilotherm: thanks! I was thinking of creating a similar issue but it's always better for it to come from the community.
10:15 poikilotherm
I just tested this wirth ORCID...
10:16 poikilotherm
You want pictures?
10:19 pdurbin
I want pictures for every step, like I did. I can do it. I don't mind. Or others can. I just re-opened "Permit multiple login options to the same Dataverse account" and left this comment: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3487#issuecomment-592441613
10:21 pdurbin
If I go back to bed and Jérémy Garniaux shows up here (I just invited him), please tell him hi for me. For context, please see https://twitter.com/MapperFr/status/1233324973911093249
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10:36 dataverse-user
Hello
10:36 pdurbin
dataverse-user: hi!
10:39 pdurbin
Is there anything we can help you with?
10:44 dataverse-user
I installed and Dataverse and deployed it to Glassfish. When I access locahost:80 I can not see dataverse page. I see glassfish page.
10:44 dataverse-user
I do not know if you have any suggetion to fix it quicly
10:45 pdurbin
This sounds very similiar to "glassfish web page instead of dataverse web page" at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/MQjUhPLSzzU/ZNUq699iCAAJ
10:47 dataverse-user
Yes, I posted this question on forum yesterday
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10:48 pdurbin
Ok. Thanks for the detailed output! Did you see my reply about dataverse-ansible?
10:49 skasberger
Oh my god, what a horrible day it was. But finally, the problem was, that the signature of the metadata providers for shibboleth took around 90minutes.
10:49 Benjamin_Peuch
Shibboleth really seems to make everyone happy (nudge nudge poikilotherm).
10:50 dataverse-user
Yes, actually I saw your answer right now. Thank you
10:51 pdurbin
dataverse-user: great! It's early for Don (and me) but he might show up in an hour or two.
10:53 dataverse-user
I want to fix the solution I have right know. I do not want to install dataverse again.
10:53 pdurbin
dataverse-user: I was afraid you'd say that. :)
10:59 pdurbin
dataverse-user: are you trying to install Dataverse 4.19 on CentOS 7?
11:01 pdurbin
poikilotherm: https://twitter.com/GenevievMichaud/status/1233344508626165761
11:03 poikilotherm
pdurbin: yeah, I saw :-D
11:03 poikilotherm
You were a quicker notification than the Twitter App :-D
11:03 pdurbin
I've got TweetDeck open.
11:04 pdurbin
The sun's coming up. I can decide if I should recaffinate or not. :)
11:04 poikilotherm
Don't give Mr. Shib more coffee....
11:04 poikilotherm
If you're already faster than Twitter :-D
11:04 pdurbin
poikilotherm: would you be able to help dataverse-user if she comes back?
11:06 poikilotherm
Maybe... Depends on how many people want things from me over here
11:06 pdurbin
that's enough of a yes for me :) thanks!
11:15 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I just added this comment: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4665#issuecomment-592468547
11:22 poikilotherm
pdurbin please hold your glas... https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3487#issuecomment-592470966
11:22 poikilotherm
(or better coffee pot)
11:23 poikilotherm
pdurbin: thanks for the shout out :-D
11:33 * pdurbin
spits coffee everywhere
11:33 pdurbin
poikilotherm: awesome screenshots! Thanks!!
11:34 pdurbin
I can hear my family waking up so I'd better get away from this computer for a bit.
11:34 poikilotherm
LOL
11:35 poikilotherm
Have fun Mr Shib :-D
12:53 pdurbin
poikilotherm: ok, the kids are off to school. Another shout out for you: https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1233374403230085121
13:02 poikilotherm
RE :-D
13:03 pdurbin
poikilotherm: please see the first bullet at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4040
13:04 poikilotherm
That's why https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/129 exists :-D
13:05 pdurbin
poikilotherm: ah ha! Can you please link that up from the "docker in production" issue and mention Peter Portante? And invite him here?
13:09 poikilotherm
Sure. https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4665#issuecomment-592505482
13:12 pdurbin
Heh, thanks for linking to a more stable IRC web client than the one I stood up. :)
13:13 poikilotherm
;-)
13:13 pdurbin
He's local. I should go have lunch with him again.
13:13 pdurbin
poikilotherm: YOU should come to the Dataverse Community Meeting and have lunch with him. :)
13:14 poikilotherm
:-D
13:15 pdurbin
Maybe we could even talk about Quarkus. :)
13:15 poikilotherm
My wife might kill me. My construction site needs me. I don't think someone has any money for this. But maybe I can give a talk remotely.
13:19 pdurbin
Have you heard of DataverseTV? It's a thing. :)
13:20 poikilotherm
LOL
13:20 poikilotherm
No, never heard of it.
13:20 poikilotherm
Oh wait, now that you mention it. Wasn't it that ugly website? ;-)
13:21 poikilotherm
Heard someone made a nice UI for it
13:24 pdurbin
Yeah, the original "designer" was some old Perl hacker who hasn't heard of HTML5.
13:25 pdurbin
sivoais: I do have fond memories of Perl, especially the community.
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13:36 pdurbin
donsizemore: wow, CentOS 8: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6230#issuecomment-592514374 ... awesome. Good morning!
13:38 donsizemore
@pdurbin I'm waiting on https://forums.centos.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=71951&sid=379e3435bc94e1692bd39716f64ec752&start=10 to make CentOS 8 the default in the Ansible role
13:42 poikilotherm
While we speak, a Payara 5.201 based Docker image is building.
13:45 pdurbin
donsizemore: wow, phpBB. Gross. Anything we can do to help?
13:45 pdurbin
poikilotherm: cool but doesn't Payara provide Docker images?
13:45 donsizemore
@pdurbin oh, that belongs to CentOS itself. i'm just waiting on an official AMI
13:46 poikilotherm
Yes they do. Building upon them.
13:46 pdurbin
poikilotherm: you're sticking the Dataverse war file in there?
13:46 poikilotherm
(Need to add a few binaries, add Dataverse files etc)
13:50 pdurbin
Ok. You make it sounds easy. :) Is there a branch I can look at?
13:52 poikilotherm
Not yet.
13:52 poikilotherm
There is that old branch
13:52 poikilotherm
I merged master
13:52 poikilotherm
But I think I'll create a fresh branch
14:04 pdurbin
Awesome. Can't wait to see it.
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14:36 Alexandre-FGV
Good morning, I'm working at FGV. We have a Dataverse with Handle installed. After we have installed and configured Handle, we are not able to create datasets. When we try to do this, an error rises and we find the following log report: [#|2020-02-28T08:26:46.138-0300|SEVERE|glassfish 4.1|edu.harvard.iq.dataverse.HandlenetServiceBean|_ThreadID=50;_ThreadName=jk-connector(4);_TimeMillis=1582889206138;_6138;_LevelValue=1000;| Can't l
14:39 poikilotherm
pdurbin: I'm off to construction site now. Sorry for not being available for the RSpace guy :-(
14:40 poikilotherm
You could catch up Monday morning (which is afternoon for me)
14:40 poikilotherm
Hi Alexandre-FGV I'm sure pdurbin will help you in a minute :-)
14:41 poikilotherm
But I fear that log message is not complete :-(
14:43 Alexandre-FGV
Indeed, there are more messages in Log file, but it seems that the other ones came from the first error...
14:55 donsizemore
@Alexandre-GFV what's the rest of that error?
14:59 donsizemore
@Alexandre-GFV saw your note to Dataverse-Users as well. The handle.net manual says "created for the administrator during the installation process."
15:00 donsizemore
@Alexandre-GFV I'm looking at http://hdl.handle.net/20.1000/113
15:04 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: hi! was biking in. Cold out!
15:05 Alexandre-FGV
[#|2020-02-28T08:26:42.209-0300|SEVERE|glassfish 4.1|edu.harvard.hul.ois.jhove|_ThreadID=47;_ThreadName=jk-connector(1);_TimeMillis=1582889202209;_LevelValue=1000;| Testing SEVERE level|#] [#|2020-02-28T08:26:46.138-0300|SEVERE|glassfish 4.1|edu.harvard.iq.dataverse.HandlenetServiceBean|_ThreadID=50;_ThreadName=jk-connector(4);_TimeMillis=1582889206138;_$ Can't load private key in /hs/svr_1/admpriv.bin: java.lang.NullPointerException|#
15:05 Alexandre-FGV
at net.handle.hdllib.HandleResolver.sendRequestToSite(HandleResolver.java:915) at net.handle.hdllib.HandleResolver.sendRequestToService(HandleResolver.java:742) at net.handle.hdllib.HandleResolver.processRequestGlobally(HandleResolver.java:578) at net.handle.hdllib.HandleResolver.processRequest(HandleResolver.java:553) at net.handle.hdllib.HandleResolver.processRequest(HandleResolver.java:563) at edu.
15:05 Alexandre-FGV
etc...
15:05 Alexandre-FGV
it is too long
15:05 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: what version of Dataverse, please?
15:07 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: you can get the version here (for example): https://demo.dataverse.org/api/info/version
15:16 donsizemore
@pdurbin the problem is in the handle.net server
15:23 pdurbin
donsizemore: oh. Do you know how to fix it? I've never set up Handle. And you're right, those line numbers aren't from Dataverse code. So I guess the version doesn't matter. Do we know if that Handle code is on GitHub?
15:28 donsizemore
@pdurbin somebody put it in docker https://github.com/horizon-institute/handle.net-server-docker
15:29 donsizemore
their manual doesn't describe key generation
15:30 donsizemore
@pdurbin 4.19 deploys cleanly on stock payara-5.201
15:30 donsizemore
@pdurbin https://payara5.odum.unc.edu/
15:40 pdurbin
donsizemore: nice! I just let folks in Slack know!
15:52 pdurbin
donsizemore: and thanks for replying to dataverse-user!
16:00 donsizemore
@pdurbin I never make that mistake... ever.
16:01 pdurbin
I'm not seeing source code in https://handle.net/hnr-source/handle-9.2.0-distribution.tar.gz
16:01 pdurbin
Which I found linked from https://github.com/horizon-institute/handle.net-server-docker
16:01 pdurbin
which you linked to :)
16:05 donsizemore
@pdurbin in fact, the permissions problem above may or may not have caused yesterday's blank homepage =)
16:06 pdurbin
I saw you mention glassfish user in your reply.
16:06 donsizemore
i'm bad about leaving detritus in my homedir
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16:17 Alexandre-FGV
hi, I just came back
16:17 Alexandre-FGV
the version is 4.10.1
16:19 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: hi! I think donsizemore and I determined that the version of Dataverse doesn't matter but thank you anyway. At the very least, it should allow me to check which version of the Handle code Dataverse 4.10.1 used, which I'll go do now. Is it safe to assume that this is not a new installation of Dataverse? :) Are you moving to another server or something?
16:23 Alexandre-FGV
pdurbin: I received the task to install Handle in an existing Dataverse here... so yeah, it isn't a new installation
16:24 Alexandre-FGV
after having Handle working well, my next move is update it =)
16:25 pdurbin
:)
16:25 pdurbin
What are you using right now instead of Handle?
16:26 Alexandre-FGV
This came to me configured to use DOI
16:26 pdurbin
I see. So you are switching from DOI to Handle.
16:28 Alexandre-FGV
Yes =)
16:28 pdurbin
Can I ask why? :)
16:29 Alexandre-FGV
btw, the permission to /hs/svr_1/admpriv.bin is root.root ...
16:29 Alexandre-FGV
haha my boss asked me to do this
16:31 pdurbin
Heh. Ok. DOIs cost more than Handles but who knows why. Just a heads up that only DOI users get all the features of Make Data Count. Please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.19/admin/make-data-count.html#limitations-for-dataverse-installations-using-handles-rather-than-dois
16:33 Alexandre-FGV
hmmm... I'll send this info to my boss...
16:33 Alexandre-FGV
thanks pdurbin =)
16:34 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: sure. So do you think it's a permission problem? The files are owned by root. What user is the Handle service running as?
16:37 Alexandre-FGV
pdurbin: I'm checking right now
16:40 pdurbin
cool
16:40 Alexandre-FGV
hmmmit is root
16:41 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: is FGV on https://dataverse.org/installations ?
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16:42 pdurbin
and does this help at all? http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.19/installation/config.html#dataverse-handlenet-admcredfile
16:42 Alexandre-FGV
in this map we aren't appearing yet...
16:42 Alexandre-FGV
but we should...
16:43 Alexandre-FGV
let me check this guide, thanks again
16:44 pdurbin
Alexandre-FGV: great! When you get a chance, please follow http://guides.dataverse.org/en/latest/installation/config.html#putting-your-dataverse-installation-on-the-map-at-dataverse-org
16:44 Alexandre-FGV
pdurbin: Nice, I'll do asap
16:46 pdurbin
thanks!!
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18:30 donsizemore
@pdurbin well, payara5 has _some_ sample data (it died when DataCite went away) https://payara5.odum.unc.edu/
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19:47 poikilotherm
pdurbin, did you see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6709 ?
19:48 poikilotherm
Do you want to add some other issue references from IQSS/dataverse?
20:11 pdurbin
poikilotherm: "contributing to dataverse project is very difficult" makes me want to cry. T-T T-T I know it's difficult! I'm sorry!
20:12 pdurbin
donsizemore: DataCite went away? Where did it go? :)
20:25 pdurbin
Should we call the police?
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21:31 donsizemore
@pdurbin yeah, i was going to include some example settings, but the contents of the citationdatefieldtype table didn't match up with what I expected, so I just picked one for the example
21:44 pdurbin
donsizemore: should I just move it to QA? I think QA is out until Tuesday.
21:53 donsizemore
@pdurbin if you wanna enumerate a list i'm happy to provide examples, i just didn't see much in the DB and depositDate was what our lady here wanted to use, so I picked it
