IRC log for #dataverse, 2020-08-03

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11:56	donsizemore	@poikilotherm "Making APIs Great Again?" is this a surreptitious plot to do away with the web interface?
11:56	poikilotherm	hihihihi
11:56	poikilotherm	No.
11:56	poikilotherm	Not at all
11:56	poikilotherm	But developers and integrators love APIs
11:57	donsizemore	I was making a joke ;)
11:57	poikilotherm	And today there are so many tools that are UI first and you're lucky if there's an API
11:57	poikilotherm	#metoo ;-D
11:57	donsizemore	be warned that our archivists by and large avoid the API at all costs
11:58	donsizemore	I usually issue the calls for them
11:58	donsizemore	not that it has anything to do with your PR, it's just... a culture thing.
11:59	poikilotherm	Most likely this is all the same all over the world... Devs love what devs love, but everyone else is unhappy without a clickable UI ;-)
11:59	donsizemore	what I mean. and don't DARE enable an API to do something the web interface can't
11:59	poikilotherm	There are reasons why Apple & Microsoft grew as big as they are now
11:59	donsizemore	very different reasons ;)
12:01	poikilotherm	Oh. Maybe you should re-think about that. Because any automation for larger piles of data are only doable with an API
12:01	donsizemore	yis
12:01	poikilotherm	Otherwise we are back to mouse cursor moving or website parsing
12:01	donsizemore	hey now, i still use lynx
12:02	poikilotherm	But I'm with you that the API itself doesn't provide any bonus
12:02	poikilotherm	It's the tools you build with it that make it so powerful
12:03	poikilotherm	One of the reasons I would like to see dvcli grow ;-)
12:08	donsizemore	i support this
12:19	poikilotherm	"I am Don Sizemore and I approve this message" :-D
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12:26	poikilotherm	donsizemore does any of what I wrote make sense? Should I extend it? Rephrase / reword? Push to wastebin and do new approach?
13:15	donsizemore	@poikilotherm looks great. the one minor tweak might be in api.rst, "not catched" might be better understood as "uncaught"
13:15	poikilotherm	Could you create a suggestion comment for me? Pretty please :-)
13:16	poikilotherm	(There is that little button about creating a suggestion in PR comments)
13:16	poikilotherm	And thx for watching my language :-)
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14:08	pameyer	@donsizemore - lynx is awesome
14:31	donsizemore	@pameyer errything i know about computers i learned in 1996 (my first Linux install)
14:39	pdurbin	I'm more of an elinks person myself.
14:47	pameyer	haven't tried elinks yet; but it's somewhere on my list of things to look into
14:48	pdurbin	It's only been out for 19 years.
14:51	poikilotherm	Better go for https://www.brow.sh ASCII art pictures
14:52	pdurbin	ooo, pretty
14:53	pameyer	so... one more year until it's ready for testing ;)
14:55	pdurbin	:)
19:49	pdurbin	pameyer: howdy. I just left you a comment on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/7114
19:51	pameyer	pdurbin: thanks, I just saw
19:52	pdurbin	donsizemore: I just upgraded vagrant
19:54	pameyer	5a77f49f78eb72addd6225bd2cf8c13549216550 should have it - will comment on the pr once I find that browser tab..
19:54	pdurbin	Heh. Ok. I'll give it a whirl.
19:56	pameyer	I actually _did_ it Thur; didn't commit/push then, was off Fri
19:56	pameyer	guess Mondays caught me out
19:58	pdurbin	case of the Mondays, I'm feelin' it

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