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10:44 Siobhan79
Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask - I have requested access for a small number of data sets, how long will it be before I have a response?
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14:18 poikilotherm
Please note the new issue https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/7856 written by @Dorothea Iglezakis and me.
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14:19 pdurbin
For Siobhan79, you should check with the support team for the installation of Dataverse.
14:20 pameyer
a few years back, my paranoia got me to try a zip-bomb on a dev dataverse instance. I was happy to see that it didn't work, and didn't dig any further
14:21 pdurbin
Ah, you saw the chatter yesterday or https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/7854
14:22 pameyer
yup - it reminded me
14:22 pameyer
my guess would be that xlsx being a zip triggered that code path somehow; but that's probably something folks figured out yesterday
14:22 pdurbin
It is kind of funny for an end user to see "Zip bomb detected!" when it's just an Excel file. :)
14:23 pdurbin
Yeah, from what I understand the error is coming from Apache POI, which we use to ingest Excel files.
14:23 pameyer
yeah; but "new" excel files are actually zip files with xml/other data
14:23 pdurbin
yeah
14:24 pameyer
it's kind of interesting how many file formats are just re-spins of zip/tar/sqlite3 + special structure
14:24 pdurbin
I think we just need to get POI to calm down a bit.
14:25 pdurbin
True. Shapefiles comes to mind but there are plenty.
14:26 pameyer
probably does need a POI setting, but I wouldn't entirely exclude the idea that the expanded filesize entry in the xlsx zip metadata is somehow off
14:26 pameyer
I'm surprised jar files weren't the first that came to mind :)
14:27 pdurbin
I guess I tar jar/war for granted. :)
14:27 pdurbin
take*
14:28 pameyer
very understandable :)
14:29 pdurbin
poikilotherm: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/7856 looks interesting. Do you have some proof of concept code?
14:29 poikilotherm
Nope, none yet
14:30 pdurbin
ok
14:30 poikilotherm
We were working on the codemeta schema and wondering what's better - detailed input via UI, making CVs easier etc or go for more flexibility but also error pronenes
14:31 poikilotherm
We identified that detailed input would be great, but searchability and views matter
14:32 pdurbin
So you want "Surfactants" to be a link, for example.
14:33 poikilotherm
Aye
14:33 poikilotherm
This is just a small amount of the implied possibilities
14:34 pameyer
from the chatter I've noticed, the software metadata stuff has seemed relatively quiet lately
14:34 pameyer
good to see its moving
14:34 poikilotherm
It could be a first step towards a clickable little ORCID icon next to the authors
14:34 pdurbin
pameyer: I think there was a meeting on Monday.
14:34 poikilotherm
Like you see them in recents pubs
14:34 poikilotherm
pdurbin pameyer yes, there was a meeting on Monday :-)
14:35 pameyer
sorry I missed it :(
14:35 pameyer
I'm a synchronization bug away from having our software stuff fully functional
14:36 pameyer
metadata review and prod deployment is another story...
14:36 pdurbin
poikilotherm: if you look at https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/TQBAEE would your solutions clean up how Topic Classification looks? Right now there are somewhat ugly URLs at the end of each entry. These would probably better be presented as hyperlinked text ("Sampsize", "Gender", "Diversity", etc.).
14:45 poikilotherm
Keywords and Topic Classification fields are exactly the use case by @doigl
14:46 poikilotherm
(See also the linked dataset in DaRuS)
14:48 poikilotherm
pameyer: software stuff?
14:50 pameyer
poikilotherm: yup
14:50 pameyer
ah, software metadata project
14:51 pameyer
making software from biogrids.org citable
14:55 poikilotherm
NICE
14:56 pameyer
thanks :)
14:56 pameyer
various interruptions over the last year slowed things down on it though :(
15:10 pdurbin
poikilotherm: thanks, I added a comment with some screenshots. I think screenshots help a lot. :)
15:12 poikilotherm
Yeah :-D
15:12 poikilotherm
I added a nice looking example in the examples section, but it's not a screenshot :-D
15:14 pdurbin
Yeah, examples help a lot too.
15:16 poikilotherm
What do you think about the possible extensions?
15:17 poikilotherm
The metadata aggregation thing might come in handy for other use cases, too
15:20 pdurbin
Overall, I'm always in favor of fresh ideas. For the ORCID example you might want to talk to Jim about the custom stuff he's done. I'm pretty sure it's on the client side in Javascript.
15:20 poikilotherm
That's why I tagged him
15:20 pdurbin
And yes, it would be good to be able to export custom fields in a format other than native JSON .
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17:09 donsizemore
may I ask a stupid question?
17:09 donsizemore
the 4.18 release notes say: "More workflows to add data have been added across the UI, including a new button on the My Data tab of the Account page, as well as a link in the Dataverse navbar, which will display on every page."
17:10 donsizemore
on none of my Dataverse installations, nor on demo.dataverse.org, is there a new button on the My Data tab of the Account page. I've been asked about this several times.
17:14 donsizemore
looking at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5615 I see Heppler checking off an "Add Data" drop-down
18:04 pdurbin
donsizemore: does this screenshot help? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3923#issuecomment-545132253
18:06 donsizemore
yes, so there is no button. it's just that the release notes say there is one, and peeps are lookin for it
18:06 pdurbin
Did we add it and then remove it? Weird.
18:09 pdurbin
Seems like it was added in this commit: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/commit/4c48cb6a8ab2cb9f2f1f10de1a9834b924cf3dd3
18:11 donsizemore
there's a drop-down, but I guess many if not most people including myself don't think of a drop-down as a button
18:11 donsizemore
so people are asking: "where's the button?"
18:13 pdurbin
I don't even see the dropdown. I don't see what's in that screenshot. I do see "Add Data" in the navbar at the top.
18:13 donsizemore
yeah, i thought that was the new dropdown/button?
18:13 donsizemore
don't sink any time into this. it's really minor, i'm just checking it off my list
18:15 pdurbin
Uh, oh. Have you seen this? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/7359
18:15 pdurbin
And guess who removed it: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/7379
19:39 donsizemore
=)
19:39 donsizemore
this is why I always ask Mr. Institutional Knowledge
19:39 pdurbin
Except that guy could't remember he was the one to remove it. :)
19:39 pdurbin
I just do what I'm told.
19:41 donsizemore
sames. I've officially made my first pass through the rock pile, and am going to celebrate by walking away from the laptop.
19:42 donsizemore
hope you have a great weekend!
19:42 pdurbin
you too!
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