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IRC log for #dvn, 2013-08-09

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04:37 Topic for #dvn is now http://thedata.org - The Dataverse Network Project | logs at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dvn/today
15:27 pdurbin I just found out OpenScholar supports SWORDv1: https://github.com/openscholar/openscholar/tree/SCHOLAR-3.x/openscholar/modules/os/modules/citation_distribute
15:29 pdurbin https://github.com/openscholar/openscholar/blob/SCHOLAR-3.x/openscholar/modules/os/modules/citation_distribute/plugins/service/citation_distribute_service_sword.inc
15:29 pdurbin https://github.com/openscholar/openscholar/blob/SCHOLAR-3.x/openscholar/modules/os/modules/citation_distribute/plugins/service/citation_distribute_service_sword_dash.inc
16:04 jwhitney joined #dvn
16:25 pdurbin jwhitney: hello!
16:25 jwhitney pdurbin: hi there
16:35 pdurbin jwhitney: did you see those links about OpenScholar? ^^
16:36 jwhitney pdurbin: I did, yes
16:36 pdurbin jwhitney: OpenScholar is written in PHP (Drupal) so I thought you might be interested
16:36 pdurbin it only supports SWORDv1 right now though
16:36 jwhitney pdurbin: defnitely, going to read through them later today
16:36 pdurbin but I know those guys... so I have more people to talk SWORD with, which makes me happy :)
16:37 pdurbin jwhitney: here's the think I really want to show you... this document I created this morning: SWORDv2 GET examples from dash.harvard.edu (DSpace): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vgLGhsuF-5W_KQ_h0tCEvIBP2ah0L6NRckk698ZeGCY/edit?usp=sharing
16:38 pdurbin 'This document will show the HTTP GET request via SWORDv2 to explore an article called “Predicting Excess Stock Returns Out of Sample: Can Anything Beat the Historical Average?” at http://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/2622619 '
16:39 pdurbin it make this all much more concrete for me. scholarly articles in DASH are similar to studies in DVN
16:40 jwhitney pdurbin: that's excellent, thanks
16:42 pdurbin jwhitney: please check out my comment about bibliographicCitation
16:43 pdurbin jwhitney: which I hope helps address the data citation discussion at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/K6XV_mPvPz0/1wzv6nt-X5MJ (Desired features for v1 of the DVN Data Deposit API)
16:43 jwhitney pdurbin: yes, caught up with that this morning
16:44 jwhitney pdurbin: & does help
16:46 pdurbin cool
16:49 pdurbin jwhitney: so in short, I'm planning on providing our normal data citation in bibliographicCitation (as a single string) but it sounds like you're probably interested in the individual fields as well.
16:51 pdurbin here's a sample data citation from DVN: Paul Glewwe; Michael Kremer; Sylvie Moulin, 2007, "Textbooks and Test Scores", http://hdl.handle.net/1902.1/11252 UNF:5:UmkAThZzJmLxeEfkp1dejw== MacArthur Data Consolidation Project [Distributor] V1 [Version]
16:55 jwhitney pdurbin: I need to check w/ Alex on this, but I think for now the citation as string is fine.
16:56 jwhitney pdurbin: The data citation will be displayed in published article metadata, but it's not being pulled apart for any purpose at the moment
16:56 jwhitney pdurbin: but I'll follow up & get back to you
17:00 pdurbin jwhitney: sounds good. thanks. I just followed up on the mailing list, linking back here
17:02 jwhitney pdurbin: even better
17:03 pdurbin :)
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19:19 pdurbin jwhitney: still there?
19:19 jwhitney pdurbin: oui.
19:19 pdurbin jwhitney: you still want a list of files per study, right?
19:20 jwhitney pdurbin: also yes.
19:20 pdurbin I was putting them in a weird place before... on the "collection" uri for a whole dataverse
19:20 pdurbin I just moved the list of files to a more sane place... queryable from the "statement" of a study
19:22 pdurbin I'm using this display-study script to get the statement for a study and list the files: https://github.com/IQSS/dvn/blob/9f04fc11839f7c5353aad76afead14904e052c5e/tools/scripts/data-deposit-api/display-study
19:25 pdurbin jwhitney: I hope that makes sense
19:26 jwhitney pdurbin: yep, makes sense
19:27 pdurbin great
19:35 pdurbin jwhitney: and I just pushed this as well: use bibliographicCitation for data citation · 0582333 · IQSS/dvn - https://github.com/IQSS/dvn/commit/0582333
19:35 pdurbin and now.. time to bike in the rain :/
19:35 pdurbin :)
19:35 jwhitney pdurbin: have fun!
19:35 pdurbin jwhitney: thanks. have a good weekend!
19:35 jwhitney pdurbin: you too.
20:24 sivoais saw #dvn mentioned in <http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=jep;view=text;rgn=main;idno=3336451.0015.102#6.2>, "Refurbishing the Camelot of Scholarship: How to Improve the Digital Contribution of the PDF Research Article" <http://dx.doi.org/10.3998/3336451.0015.102
20:25 sivoais >
20:25 sivoais in a discussion of how the raw data can be shared

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