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| 02:01 |
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| 02:38 |
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pdurbin |
skay: re-reading through the log (busy day) I see you had some questions that may not have been answered |
| 02:39 |
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pdurbin |
I'm gonna run out and shovel snow but if there's any lingering question, please let me know |
| 05:06 |
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| 09:38 |
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balo |
:D |
| 14:11 |
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pdurbin |
balo: what are you smiling at? ;) |
| 14:39 |
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balo |
pdurbin: you ran out and shovel some snow :D |
| 14:40 |
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balo |
it weren't any snow yet in this winter around here |
| 14:52 |
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pdurbin |
snow day today. I'm home with the kids |
| 15:05 |
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balo |
good to hear |
| 15:26 |
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pdurbin |
they're pretty excited |
| 15:38 |
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skay |
having grown up in Texas on the gulf coast, and rarely seeing snow (the most exciting snow we had was enough to fill our slide, but with no sticking on the ground) |
| 15:38 |
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skay |
I love living in Chicago where we get snow for free |
| 15:39 |
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skay |
It helps that I do not need to drive |
| 15:39 |
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skay |
we set up a house cam for my mom |
| 15:39 |
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skay |
well, actually we set up a house cam out of curiosity to see if a neighborhood cat is handling hte snow okay |
| 15:42 |
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skay |
ultimate challenge is to set up something like what the spacemon irc bot does for ps1 https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Spacemon |
| 15:43 |
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skay |
but my spouse and I have all these other things we want to do and that one is down the list |
| 16:01 |
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| 16:04 |
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pdurbin |
heh. snow for free |
| 16:07 |
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| 16:13 |
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posixeleni |
skay: Good mid-week morning! I maintain the Dataverse Network Project site and was wondering if your team would be ok with us listing your current work with us on our Apps page http://thedata.org/book/apps? Thought it would fit well on there considering its similar to our collaboration w/ OSF. |
| 16:15 |
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skay |
posixeleni: I am okay with it. let me ask my PI! She will probably be okay with it too. |
| 16:17 |
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skay |
we should have a news/blog section on our site so we could discuss these types of things |
| 16:19 |
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posixeleni |
skay: thanks! sounds good. All we would need is a brief description about Research Compendia and the name of the plugin or add-on that you are creating to connect with us. Maybe a link to your git repo? |
| 16:21 |
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| 16:25 |
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pdurbin |
posixeleni: maybe a link to a github issue a la this one: integration between OSF and Dataverse Network (DVN) · Issue #112 · CenterForOpenScience/openscienceframework.org - https://github.com/CenterForOpenScience/openscienceframework.org/issues/112 |
| 16:26 |
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pdurbin |
skay: if you have such a link already :) |
| 16:28 |
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posixeleni |
that would be perfect! |
| 16:30 |
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skay |
posixeleni: Victoria things that would be great. Would you also like to be listed on our partners page? |
| 16:30 |
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skay |
things |
| 16:30 |
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skay |
arg. I make type at computer |
| 16:30 |
|
* skay |
plays animated gif with crazy typing |
| 16:31 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I should make up a nice issue to track versus the quick todo I made https://github.com/researchcompendia/researchcompendia/issues/150 let me edit that |
| 16:32 |
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posixeleni |
skay: no worries! we would love to! let me know whatever info you need |
| 16:32 |
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skay |
posixeleni: I think a vectorized logo would be good |
| 16:33 |
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skay |
we don't have any designers to make our site have a consistent look and feel and all of the other goodness tht would result from having a designer ... so I do not have a good request |
| 16:33 |
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skay |
such as -- do you have branding logos that are appropriate for b/w, color, light/dark etc |
| 16:33 |
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skay |
right now our page looks like this: http://researchcompendia.org/partners/ |
| 16:34 |
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skay |
so whatever logo you think is appropriate |
| 16:34 |
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skay |
and then we can add verbiage as appropriate if you like, or just have hte logo |
| 16:34 |
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skay |
btw, I approached rackspace to ask for a community account for open science related endeavors and they allowed that |
| 16:35 |
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skay |
so if you folks have something that would not push it over 2K per month talk to us about it |
| 16:36 |
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skay |
right now I only am using a couple of vms for research compendia, some cloudfiles, and a couple of vms for the scipy conference site, as well as a vm where I have graphite |
| 16:37 |
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skay |
pdurbin: do you use jenkins or something like that? |
| 16:37 |
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pdurbin |
skay: jenkins. yes |
| 16:37 |
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pdurbin |
skay: so... do you have an "integrate with dataverse" github issue? |
| 16:38 |
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skay |
I am trying to think of what kinds of computing resources to offer, and I think maybe running jenkins for open source science projects could be nice |
| 16:38 |
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skay |
pdurbin: making that now |
| 16:38 |
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pdurbin |
+1 |
| 16:38 |
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posixeleni |
skay: would this work for a logo http://thedata.org/files/thedata_new2/files/thedatabanner4_1.png ? |
| 16:39 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I bet you'd like this: Scientific Python - Community - Google+ - https://plus.google.com/communities/108773711053400791849 |
| 16:39 |
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pdurbin |
you could float your jenkins idea there |
| 16:39 |
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skay |
good idea |
| 16:40 |
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skay |
posixeleni: Perhaps, do you have one that is transparent? |
| 16:40 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I could probably log #hackingscience for you if you want |
| 16:40 |
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skay |
posixeleni: we can use tht one for you |
| 16:41 |
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skay |
pdurbin: let me think about that. |
| 16:41 |
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pdurbin |
ok |
| 16:41 |
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skay |
s/that one for you/that one for now |
| 16:41 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I remember someone being hesitent to ask questions in #openhatch due to it being logged |
| 16:42 |
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skay |
which has me pondering whether I'd want to log channels -- I think logs are very useful but I am weighing that against reactions like that person had |
| 16:42 |
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posixeleni |
skay: thanks! I will check with my colleagues to see if we have a transparent one |
| 16:47 |
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pdurbin |
skay: this is why I log this channel: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/05/maximizing-the-value-of-your-keystrokes.html |
| 16:47 |
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skay |
pdurbin: we logged jabber rooms at work -- particularly the operations chatroom |
| 16:48 |
|
skay |
(which was called the soc) |
| 16:49 |
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skay |
that room was like mission control with big flat planed monitors hanging on the wall, and one of them would tail the soc chat room |
| 16:49 |
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skay |
it makes me want to do a project for our hackerspace where we do something similar |
| 16:51 |
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pdurbin |
sure |
| 16:52 |
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skay |
posixeleni: pdurbin: updated issue https://github.com/researchcompendia/researchcompendia/issues/150 |
| 16:54 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I see a lot of groups using https://botbot.me/ for irc logs |
| 16:59 |
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posixeleni |
skay: i got a transparent png logo for ya. Want me to email it or prefer if we host it on our end? |
| 17:00 |
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pdurbin |
skay: the issue looks great |
| 17:00 |
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pdurbin |
posixeleni: you saw it? |
| 17:01 |
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skay |
posixeleni: neat. I've been taking hte logos and hosting them with our other static assets on s3 (and probably later cloudfiles CDN) |
| 17:01 |
|
skay |
but I'm not an expert in that type of thing, so let me know what is better for you |
| 17:02 |
|
skay |
go ahead send me an email with it for now |
| 17:02 |
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posixeleni |
pdurbin: skay: yes saw the issue and looks good! will add a link to our Apps page. Will send a draft of what we would likely post on that page to you by tomorrow? Sound good? |
| 17:02 |
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skay |
posixeleni: sounds great. thanks for thinking of this! |
| 17:03 |
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skay |
posixeleni: let me know if there is a guideline for whether we should host the logo or you should |
| 17:06 |
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posixeleni |
skay: totally fine with you hosting our logo; just sent it |
| 17:08 |
|
skay |
Cool! |
| 17:10 |
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pdurbin |
posixeleni: who me? I'll rubber stamp it ;) |
| 17:11 |
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pdurbin |
"ship it!" |
| 17:11 |
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posixeleni |
pdurbin: skay: for both of you to approve! ;) |
| 17:11 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
| 17:11 |
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skay |
pdurbin: while you are in this mood, will you accept my pull request? |
| 17:11 |
|
skay |
:D |
| 17:13 |
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skay |
pdurbin: do you know rliebz? that person forked the project and has some changes |
| 17:14 |
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skay |
they have not made a pull request |
| 17:14 |
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pdurbin |
skay: hmm, probably Robert_Liebowitz from yesterday: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dvn/2014-01-21 |
| 17:14 |
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pdurbin |
right? |
| 17:15 |
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skay |
sounds very likely! I am wondering if he will want to do a pull request at some point, and also, I am sure he would have opinions on how best to package things |
| 17:16 |
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skay |
it doesn't look like he hangs out in #openscienceframework |
| 17:16 |
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pdurbin |
skay: how about if I give him push access to the upstream repo so he can merge in the change if he wants to? |
| 17:16 |
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skay |
I suppose I can ask him next time he shows up |
| 17:17 |
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pdurbin |
skay: or should I give you push access so you can merge it yourself? jeff and josh from OSF already have push access |
| 17:17 |
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skay |
I don't know him that well, have you worked with him before? |
| 17:17 |
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pdurbin |
LyndsySimon: you can have push access to if you want |
| 17:17 |
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skay |
I will totally love to have push access |
| 17:17 |
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pdurbin |
skay: he works for OSF/COS... that's good enough for me :) |
| 17:17 |
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skay |
I am going to be conservative at first |
| 17:17 |
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skay |
I think I'll ping them to ask for a sanity check before I merge anything |
| 17:18 |
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pdurbin |
the dvn api python library was OSF's (great) idea to begin with |
| 17:18 |
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pdurbin |
skay: those guys are smart wtih python. me... not so much |
| 17:18 |
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pdurbin |
i rewrote my sword api testing scripts from python to ruby. fits my brain a little better. though perl was my first love |
| 17:19 |
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skay |
pdurbin: where are those checked in? |
| 17:19 |
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skay |
I went from perl to tcl to python |
| 17:20 |
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skay |
I have nothing against ruby. It just happens that I encountered python first |
| 17:20 |
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| 17:20 |
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pdurbin |
skay: do you want to make fun of my python and ruby? ;) |
| 17:21 |
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skay |
I am also not wedded to django. I picked that as a reasonably stable framework to run with when I got hired |
| 17:21 |
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pdurbin |
skay: here they are: https://github.com/IQSS/dvn/tree/develop/tools/scripts/data-deposit-api |
| 17:21 |
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pdurbin |
wow. tcl |
| 17:21 |
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skay |
I thought at first they would have me extending/refactoring a java app but the collaboration never provided all of the legacy java code and we eventually went our route since we wanted to make an open source project |
| 17:22 |
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skay |
and I'm glad that happened because I did not want to refactor/extend a struts app |
| 17:22 |
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skay |
hey, I really liked tcl |
| 17:22 |
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| 17:23 |
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skay |
very friendly people too |
| 17:23 |
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skay |
which is also true for python and I am sure for ruby folks too |
| 17:23 |
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LyndsySimon |
Just saw the notification for this channel, catching up. |
| 17:24 |
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balo |
I'm a ruby and a java people. So am I double as friendly? :D |
| 17:24 |
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skay |
:) |
| 17:24 |
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skay |
I'm java, python, and jython! |
| 17:24 |
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LyndsySimon |
OK, gotchya. @rliebz on Github is with COS. |
| 17:25 |
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skay |
I'm @codersquid, with researchcompendia |
| 17:25 |
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balo |
I plan to work with jruby. but it doesn't make it a language :b |
| 17:25 |
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skay |
balo: I also was reading groovy (not writing much) because at my last job we were starting to use gradle rather than ant |
| 17:26 |
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skay |
balo: are you familiar with glu? it also uses groovy. we were using that for deployment |
| 17:26 |
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skay |
I am not sure why they picked glu over some of the other frameworks |
| 17:27 |
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pdurbin |
LyndsySimon: yeah, he emailed me yesterday morning. I'm glad he popped in here |
| 17:27 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky glu groovy |
| 17:27 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://pongasoft.github.io/glu/docs/latest/html/ |
| 17:27 |
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skay |
I would also like to spend some time on javascript |
| 17:27 |
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pdurbin |
"glu is a free/open source deployment and monitoring automation platform" |
| 17:28 |
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pdurbin |
neat |
| 17:28 |
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skay |
and I wish I had done everything in say, django-rest-framework with angularjs on top or something like that |
| 17:28 |
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skay |
pdurbin: it is not bad. checkout some demo videos online or people talk about it |
| 17:28 |
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pdurbin |
skay: well, for now we're happy with jenkins. gets the job done |
| 17:28 |
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skay |
and it was developed by linkedin so it has to survive under crazy conditions -- well, also by orbitz where I worked |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
we used a combo of jenkins with glu and some other things |
| 17:29 |
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LyndsySimon |
@pdurbin I don't think I have a reason to have push access at this point - and the paranoid sysadmin in me says that I shouldn't have access I don't need :) |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
btw, do you use graphite? we used an orbitz internal library with erma to send to streambase to send to graphite |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
it's very useful, so I wanted to suggest it if you were not aware of it |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
pdurbin: but rather than streambase you'd probably want to use statsd |
| 17:30 |
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pdurbin |
skay: folks in #crimsonfu use graphite |
| 17:30 |
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pdurbin |
LyndsySimon: ok. no pressure :) |
| 17:30 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I was about to pste https://graphite.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ for you |
| 17:31 |
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skay |
because if you look for graphite docs you might find some old crufty wiki |
| 17:31 |
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balo |
i never heard of glu before |
| 17:31 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky erma streambase |
| 17:31 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://www.streambase.com/news-and-events/press-releases/pr-2008/orbitz-unveils-new-open-source-software-for-high-speed-event-processing-application-monitoring-analytics-and-graphing/ |
| 17:32 |
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skay |
pdurbin: balo: we had some jenkins jobs that would work with git commits on release (I think? it's been a while, can't remember exactly) and would automatically package releases, and then work in conjunction with a glu fabric file to deploy that stack to an environment, whether it be an integration one or not |
| 17:32 |
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skay |
we were in the middle of having that work everywhere |
| 17:33 |
|
* skay |
looks up crimsonfu |
| 17:33 |
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skay |
ha, I am a coder who vaguely sysadms |
| 17:33 |
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skay |
which I need to do more of due to being only one person on Victoria's team with this type of experience |
| 17:33 |
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skay |
I'm the industry fu person |
| 17:34 |
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skay |
ooo salt, I just learned about that hte other day when one of hte salt guys (lives around here) gave a talk for us at our linux user group |
| 17:34 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: google crimsonfu |
| 17:34 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: crimsonfu - sysadmins who code: <http://crimsonfu.github.io/>; Philip Durbin: <http://crimsonfu.github.io/members/pdurbin/>; crimsonfu (crimsonfu) · GitHub: <https://github.com/crimsonfu>; IRC log for #crimsonfu, 2012-11-05: <http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-11-05>; IRC log for #crimsonfu, 2012-04-13: <http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-04-13>; IRC log for #crimsonfu, (1 more message) |
| 17:35 |
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skay |
pdurbin: okay, so if youw ant to play with graphite yourself, one of hte maintainers created a repo that installs a graphite example stack https://github.com/obfuscurity/synthesize which I found to be really helpful |
| 17:35 |
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pdurbin |
ok |
| 17:35 |
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pdurbin |
thanks :) |
| 17:35 |
|
* pdurbin |
is too busy to play ;) |
| 17:35 |
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skay |
oh okay |
| 17:36 |
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skay |
btw, do you use aspects? I don't know if that is something spring people do only -- aspect oriented programming can make want to kill people |
| 17:36 |
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skay |
on the other hand, it's really nice for some things... so speaking of graphite |
| 17:36 |
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skay |
and logging -- monitirng stuff basically, you can make some aspects to do monitoring and logging crap for you |
| 17:37 |
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skay |
some of the guys who worked on our lib-monitoring library created annotations for us to do nice crap like that |
| 17:37 |
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skay |
I want some for python (I think I found some in perfmetrics) |
| 17:37 |
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skay |
I am less familiar with non-spring based things |
| 17:38 |
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skay |
we had some legacy j2ee ejb stuff but I didn't have to spend too much time on it.s pring/hibernate |
| 17:38 |
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skay |
that's what I mostly did |
| 17:38 |
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skay |
I will stop blathering now. sorry about that |
| 17:38 |
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skay |
I tend to get excited about graphite and monitring |
| 17:45 |
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pdurbin |
heh |
| 17:45 |
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pdurbin |
AOP? not really |
| 17:49 |
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skay |
AOP, I know. I had people at work overuse it and it filled me with stabby rage. (just kidding) |
| 17:50 |
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skay |
debugging is painful in that case |
| 17:54 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
| 17:55 |
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skay |
(I'm a technical co-chair for scipy btw, hence providing vms for the conference site) |
| 17:55 |
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skay |
that is another way to ask for commit rights |
| 17:55 |
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skay |
I have commit rights on scipy-conference, see? I am not a complete flake |
| 17:55 |
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skay |
I only sound like one |
| 20:14 |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky scipy |
| 20:14 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://scipy.org/ |
| 20:31 |
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| 21:07 |
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pdurbin |
LyndsySimon: Dataverse Network - Suggestion #3426: Allow for Dataverse to send a notification / synching service (web hook) to an application that is using our Data Deposit API - Project Management at IQSS, Harvard University - https://redmine.hmdc.harvard.edu/issues/3426 |
| 21:08 |
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pdurbin |
LyndsySimon: that's new. can you please show it to your people when you get a chance? |
| 21:08 |
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LyndsySimon |
Absolutely! thanks :) |
| 21:08 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: it's something you guys requested |
| 21:15 |
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pdurbin |
skay: you're having decent success with dvn-4, right? |
| 21:15 |
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jwhitney |
pdurbin: cool, thanks for the link |
| 21:15 |
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skay |
yes, though I am taking a day off from doing dvn stuff to add a crude citation thing |
| 21:20 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: sure |
| 21:21 |
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pdurbin |
skay: great. thanks. noted in the internal ticket |
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