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| 15:24 |
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pdurbin |
skay: weechat+tmux question for you when you have a chance |
| 15:26 |
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skay |
pdurbin: sure. I'm a newbie weechat user but will try to help |
| 15:35 |
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pdurbin |
"Presumably, you're running weechat in a terminal... the links are hard-wrapped... (you won't be able to click the full url)... [urlgrab.py] has one obvious limitation: it doesn't work well if you’re running weechat on a remote host" -- http://blog.lnx.cx/2012/08/14/weechat/ |
| 15:36 |
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pdurbin |
skay: do you have that problem too? can't click long urls? it's the main thing that drives me crazy about weechat. otherwise it's great |
| 15:37 |
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skay |
pdurbin: OH that is one of the most annoying things. I am using a hack by using hte urlserver.py script, and I have a short domain I've been using ps1.o |
| 15:37 |
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skay |
ps1.iio |
| 15:37 |
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skay |
arg, typo plague |
| 15:38 |
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skay |
I actually got that domain for something else, and have it pointing to the same host where I use weechat |
| 15:39 |
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skay |
There's another weechat setting that helps -- you can toggle the nicklist |
| 15:39 |
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skay |
using urlserver has a cool benefit -- you can open a window with all the urls that have been typed in all of your channels |
| 15:40 |
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pdurbin |
skay: if I toggle the nicklist, I'll be able to click long urls? |
| 15:41 |
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skay |
pdurbin: not necessarily. if the url is long enough to wrap despite the extra real estate |
| 15:41 |
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skay |
toggling hte nicklist merely gives you more real estate |
| 15:42 |
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pdurbin |
grr |
| 15:42 |
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skay |
it is one of hte more annoying things about weechat, but hasn't been annoying enough for me to switch back to irssi |
| 15:42 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, I didn't have this problem with irssi. I could click long links. I didn't even think about it |
| 15:43 |
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pdurbin |
skay: is there a write up of your urlserver.py solution? I'm not sure I follow |
| 15:44 |
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skay |
let me try to find it. it may have been a conversation |
| 15:45 |
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pdurbin |
skay: cool, if you know of a bug filed against weechat for this, I'd be interested in that too |
| 15:45 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I'm just happy you feel my pain ;) |
| 15:46 |
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skay |
here let me past this long url that will help. ...I better make a shorturl for you |
| 15:46 |
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skay |
http://bit.ly/1aH6lsu |
| 15:47 |
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pdurbin |
heh. for the logs, I'd rather have the long link: http://pascalpoitras.com/2013/06/18/weechat-the-urlserver-script/ |
| 15:47 |
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skay |
oh, good point |
| 15:47 |
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pdurbin |
ah. "The long URL problem in WeeChat" ... I'm already liking this :) |
| 15:48 |
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skay |
my pain point with irssi was my memory -- I never could remember how to fix my layout properly |
| 15:49 |
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skay |
do you know how to toggle nicklist? /bar toggle nicklist |
| 15:49 |
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skay |
I forget that, so I added a note in pinboard |
| 15:49 |
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pdurbin |
"everytime someone give a web link, the shorten url will appears on his own line below the message containing the original URL" ... so this only appears on my screen, right? iqlogbot won't log it and you wouldn't see it? |
| 15:49 |
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skay |
https://pinboard.in/u:sky/t:weechat/ |
| 15:51 |
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skay |
I don't *think* so, but experiment and see if shows up |
| 15:51 |
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skay |
I just double checked on a channel I log, and they don't show up |
| 15:52 |
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pdurbin |
ok. good |
| 15:52 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, that post links to some solutions that aren't on my radar: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/weechat_faq.en.html#urls |
| 15:52 |
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pdurbin |
such as: |
| 15:52 |
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pdurbin |
... /set weechat.look.eat_newline_glitch on |
| 15:55 |
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pdurbin |
ok, let's see if this link is long enough: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/today.php?channel=ubuntu-women-project |
| 15:55 |
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pdurbin |
hmm. didn't work. maybe I need to restart weechat or something |
| 15:56 |
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pdurbin |
what a mess |
| 15:56 |
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skay |
yes |
| 15:57 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I might try your urlserver.py solution but it seems... noisy... an extra line every time someone drops a link (and I drop a lot of links) |
| 15:57 |
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skay |
oh oh, it doesn't paste a line to me when I post links |
| 15:57 |
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pdurbin |
no? |
| 15:58 |
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pdurbin |
"everytime someone give a web link, the shorten url will appears on his own line below the message containing the original URL" |
| 15:58 |
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skay |
yeah, so maybe it is smart and doesn't shorten links the user posts |
| 15:58 |
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pdurbin |
I'm so confused |
| 15:58 |
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skay |
doh, sorry. I just did a thinko |
| 15:59 |
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skay |
it doesn't repeat localhost links. headsmack |
| 15:59 |
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skay |
my brain confabulated |
| 16:00 |
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pdurbin |
skay: so it would put a shortened link on my buffer (and only my buffer) for any channel where someone puts a link, right? |
| 16:00 |
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skay |
yeah, if you find it annoying every time you post a link you might not want to use it. but that glitch has me thinking maybe you could discover how the glitch works and use it to your advantage -- perhaps they have some code in there that does some pattern matching |
| 16:00 |
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pdurbin |
skay: go track down this bug and squash it, please :) |
| 16:01 |
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skay |
to clarify, in my case, it doesn't paste a private line in every channel, jsut the one channel. but you can toggle a new window that only has urlserver links, but this doesn't mean they will stop showing up in your channel |
| 16:01 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I am not obsessed enough :) |
| 16:02 |
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pdurbin |
skay: oh, so urlserver.py would show up as buffer for me? and all shortened links appear there? |
| 16:02 |
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skay |
that happens if you use the /urlserver command |
| 16:02 |
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pdurbin |
hmm |
| 16:03 |
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pdurbin |
maybe I'll just switch back to irssi ;) |
| 16:03 |
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skay |
it sounds like enough of an annoyance that you might want to |
| 16:03 |
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skay |
I don't have all the extra annoyances that you are having |
| 16:04 |
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pdurbin |
but I really, really like that the thing I type it grows automatically with weechat. the input line or whatever. when I cross into a second line. irssi doesn't have this and it might drive me more crazy. not sure |
| 16:04 |
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pdurbin |
it drove me to weechat at least, where I've been mostly happy |
| 16:04 |
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skay |
in other news, I haven't worked on any dvn related stuff for a week or so -- bosses wanted some different features first |
| 16:04 |
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pdurbin |
saner defaults, overall |
| 16:04 |
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skay |
cool |
| 16:05 |
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pdurbin |
skay: no worries, we're all busy |
| 16:05 |
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skay |
and for this week or so, I want to focus on some executability pilots -- dunno if I will exercise the dvn apis while doing that |
| 16:06 |
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pdurbin |
a guy on our team is doing some killer work on future APIs for dataverse |
| 16:06 |
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pdurbin |
full of JSON goodness |
| 16:07 |
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skay |
that is handy |
| 16:07 |
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pdurbin |
he took the JSON stuff I had done and ran with it |
| 16:07 |
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skay |
please no xml if possible |
| 16:07 |
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pdurbin |
heh |
| 16:07 |
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pdurbin |
well SWORD is XML. it just is. AtomPub |
| 16:07 |
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skay |
I know :( oh well |
| 16:07 |
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pdurbin |
axfelix: so you get XML :) |
| 16:08 |
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pdurbin |
anyway, need to run to the store. kids don't have any milk |
| 16:08 |
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skay |
so, you probably don't want to do this because there are not always intelligent defaults and crap when mapping xml to dictionaries aka jsonic things but... |
| 16:08 |
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skay |
oh okay |
| 16:09 |
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pdurbin |
skay: thanks again for feeling my pain :) |
| 16:09 |
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skay |
quickly, we used to look at accept http header to see if hte clients were asking for application/json application/x-protobuf (can't remember actual string) application/foo and return as appropriate |
| 16:09 |
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pdurbin |
makes sense |
| 16:09 |
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skay |
and has some adapter layer that would do a reasonable job |
| 16:10 |
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skay |
btw, if you want to push big payloads around, take a look at https://github.com/eishay/jvm-serializers/wiki |
| 16:11 |
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skay |
and you can consider using other fomrats, like protocol buffers, and so on |
| 16:11 |
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skay |
I'd default to json |
| 16:11 |
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skay |
no need to optimize until it's actually a problem |
| 16:11 |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
| 16:11 |
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pdurbin |
and thanks for the link |
| 16:12 |
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skay |
bd |
| 16:13 |
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skay |
for your api person, https://code.google.com/p/protostuff/ in case they are curious about going between protos and other formats |
| 16:14 |
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skay |
if they are curious. and tell them that I haven't worked with protos for over a year, so my information is stale. and also that I'm not sure I would pick protos if I were looking for a similar thing now |
| 16:15 |
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skay |
ttyl |
| 16:51 |
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pdurbin |
got milk |
| 16:51 |
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pdurbin |
skay: right. protocol buffers |
| 16:51 |
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pdurbin |
hmm, they're only from 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_Buffers |
| 16:52 |
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pdurbin |
and listed as an example of an IDL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_description_language |
| 16:52 |
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pdurbin |
along side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Thrift |
| 16:52 |
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pdurbin |
I first heard about IDLs by listening to this: http://programmingthrowdown.blogspot.com/2012_04_01_archive.html |
| 17:16 |
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skay |
pdurbin: how noisy would it be for me to give a quick recap of using them at orbitz? I could chat in a diffrent channel |
| 17:22 |
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pdurbin |
skay: hmm, how about #sourcefu? sivoais and I are in there. usually it's just me talking to myself :) |
| 17:25 |
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pdurbin |
for anyone who's interested: http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2014-02-08 |
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