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pdurbin |
"The Simple Knowledge Organization System (SKOS) is a common data model for sharing and linking knowledge organization systems via the Semantic Web" -- http://www.w3.org/2009/08/skos-reference/skos.html |
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pdurbin |
"A SKOS concept scheme can be viewed as an aggregation of one or more SKOS concepts. Semantic relationships (links) between those concepts may also be viewed as part of a concept scheme." -- http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#schemes |
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pdurbin |
"one may also need a way to define, per repository, what SKOS Concept Schemes are supported" -- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/fairport-discuss/h58ivDA4tO4/CNGnB-nlfjQJ |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies: welcome! |
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pdurbin |
nice! these folks upgraded to DVN 3.6.2! (recently released) http://www.duanaire.ie/dvn/ |
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jeffspies |
hi, pdurbin |
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jeffspies |
pdurbin: i'll hangout in this channel on occasion if you don't mind |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies: of course not! anyone from https://osf.io is always welcome! :) |
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pdurbin |
shauna: want you mention to jeffspies our idea for a new "big tent" mailing list? |
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jeffspies |
i'll be getting an irc client with bouncer setup for all of us soon, so we should have more cos folks online more often :) |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies: nice! open offer to log any channels at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu |
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pdurbin |
backups are here: http://dvn-vm1.hmdc.harvard.edu/data/mysql/ |
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pdurbin |
shauna: s/want you/want to/ |
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shauna |
hi jeffspies |
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jeffspies |
hi shauna |
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shauna |
pdurbin and I (and kaythaney in #sciencelab) have talked about trying to set up a couple of "big tent" communication channels |
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shauna |
one IRC channel would be nice but obvs there are a lot of open science people who don't use IRC |
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shauna |
so a mailing list which mostly existed to have meta-conversations and alert people to interesting things happening elsewhere (other lists, twitter, IRC, real life) would be nice |
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shauna |
I think the OSF list would be nice for that except unfortunately the name does not suggest big tent |
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jeffspies |
i think #openscience does a good job of this |
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jeffspies |
perhaps just rss'ing there feed |
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jeffspies |
*their |
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shauna |
is #openscience a twitter hashtag? |
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jeffspies |
then people could consume it however they'd like |
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shauna |
or the mailing list |
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jeffspies |
@openscience |
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jeffspies |
sorry |
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jeffspies |
they have a large group of folks that keep up on openscience stuff |
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shauna |
I've liked planets for this in the past as well. |
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jeffspies |
planets? |
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shauna |
errr |
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jeffspies |
i've heard of this at some point |
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shauna |
combined feeds? |
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jeffspies |
no you're right, there's something astronomy related |
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jeffspies |
i set up a combined feed a while back--i could roll that out again under a generic name, but really just a feed of @openscience would provide significant coverage |
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pdurbin |
a planet is just a collection of blogs |
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pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky blog planet |
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pdurbin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(software) |
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jeffspies |
ah, ok good |
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jeffspies |
that's what i had done |
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jeffspies |
a while back |
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pdurbin |
e.g. http://planet.debian.org |
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jeffspies |
is there a way to turn a twitter stream into an RSS feed? |
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shauna |
It seems like there should be. |
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jeffspies |
or we could get the reddit subreddit going |
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jeffspies |
william gun mods /r/openscience |
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jeffspies |
they have rss for those |
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jeffspies |
and then at least there's more community involved |
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shauna |
people might be hesitant about reddit |
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pdurbin |
shauna: this is already reminding me of [OH-Dev] Alternatives to our web forum - http://lists.openhatch.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/003533.html |
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shauna |
also maybe william gunn (I like him, but it feels a little weird to have it modded by an employee of Elsevier) |
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jeffspies |
the good thing about reddit is that we know it's feed-able so users don't even need to know it's reddit |
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pdurbin |
yoh: you like open science |
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jeffspies |
i don't have that concern with william--and others also mod it |
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jeffspies |
we could ask that you are given mod privs too |
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shauna |
I don't have that concern? I'm concerned others would have that concern. But maybe they won't, and if there are other mods... |
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shauna |
There's Discourse, too. But that's pretty new and mostly I just want a reason to try it out. :) |
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jeffspies |
strange decision making by discourse regarding threading |
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jeffspies |
and on others thinking: we're an inclusive community thus far, and it would be nice to uphold that no matter if people are concerned that one mod out of several could have a bias |
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jeffspies |
we're all biased anyway :) |
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shauna |
what do you dislike about the threading? |
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pdurbin |
shauna: discourse is not threaded |
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shauna |
It's not completely flat, though. |
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pdurbin |
true |
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shauna |
I thought it was like a mixture of the two? |
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shauna |
It's been a little while since I read their faq, and I've never used it. |
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pdurbin |
shauna: you can play with it here: http://discourse.ubuntu.com |
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pdurbin |
or http://bbs.boingboing.net |
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shauna |
thanks, pdurbin |
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pdurbin |
shauna: sure. see also me trolling Jeff Atwood: Libelous quote-to-reply - Discourse Meta - https://meta.discourse.org/t/libelous-quote-to-reply/724 :) |
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shauna |
ha |
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shauna |
I actually miss web forums. I hope a community I care about adopts Discourse soon. |
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shauna |
oh pdurbin. any chance I could interview you (or someone else) about dataverse today? |
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shauna |
the blog needs a post this week :) |
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pdurbin |
not today. gotta ship |
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pdurbin |
shauna: I sent an email around about it though... forwarded it to you |
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shauna |
I saw it! I presume you will let me know if someone replies. :) |
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pdurbin |
shauna: "Very interesting and useful, Phil. Thanks!" |
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pdurbin |
I'll keep you posted. :) |
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jeffspies |
discourse looks nice, but it is completely flat i think other than the embedded quotations |
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skay |
shauna mozilla science just set up a discourse board |
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skay |
I've started idling in #sciencelab |
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skay |
http://forum.mozillascience.org/ |
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skay |
jeffspies: hey! |
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pdurbin |
skay: awesome. didn't know about this. thanks! |
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shauna |
me either, thanks skay |
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skay |
I decided to leave Columbia and continue work on FLOSS open science related stuff on my own |
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pdurbin |
skay: whoa! what does that mean for Integration with Dataverse Network (DVN) · Issue #150 · researchcompendia/researchcompendia - https://github.com/researchcompendia/researchcompendia/issues/150 ? |
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pdurbin |
(and I'm glad you'll still be involved in open science! and good luck!) ... :) |
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skay |
My thoughts for the upcoming summer: contribute to sumatra -- I already wanted to use sumatra-as-service in researchcompendia, so I want to contribute to making it easy for people to use sumatra as a service |
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skay |
I was thinking of experimenting with docker/sumatra |
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skay |
pdurbin: I'm not certain at this point |
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pdurbin |
skay: ok, if you or someone could just comment on that ticket at some point it would be great |
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skay |
jeffspies: and if your group is going to be doing any experiementation with docker over the summer I'd like to follow along with discussions |
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skay |
pdurbin: I will |
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pdurbin |
skay: great, thanks |
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skay |
I didn't know about that reddit (I don't reddit much, way too distracting) |
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pdurbin |
skay: any thoughts on https://github.com/IQSS/dvn-client-python ? |
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skay |
pdurbin: I would like to contribute to that. Depending on what I do for the summer I want to be a part of it |
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skay |
I'm thinking of taking the summer off to do a whirlwind vacation of FLOSS |
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pdurbin |
skay: ok. cool. would love to continue having you involved in that Python Dataverse client |
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skay |
depends on those plans |
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pdurbin |
sure |
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skay |
I've wanted to take a FLOSS vacation for a while now! |
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jeffspies |
skay: going to chat you |
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skay |
okiedokie |
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pdurbin |
well that was exciting :) |
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bencomp |
pdurbin: can I ask a silly question? |
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pdurbin |
bencomp: of course you can :) |
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bencomp |
good :) |
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bencomp |
how are handles, err, handled? |
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bencomp |
does DVN talk the protocol itself, or do we need the default handle software? |
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pdurbin |
bencomp: I'm not an expert on this but I'm looking at http://thedata.harvard.edu/guides/dataverse-installer-main.html#handle-system |
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bencomp |
pdurbin: well, that looks like it's very easy |
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pdurbin |
bencomp: seems like you'll need to download something from http://handle.net/download.html |
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bencomp |
that was my exact question |
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pdurbin |
not so silly :) |
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bencomp |
wish I had figured this out, say, two weeks ago |
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pdurbin |
bencomp: we recently switched from handle to doi in production |
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pdurbin |
bencomp: is handle more popular in your part of the world? |
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bencomp |
so what happened to the existing handles? |
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pdurbin |
they still work |
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pdurbin |
but I'm pretty sure that new studies don't get handles |
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pdurbin |
they get DOIs instead |
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bencomp |
did the old studies get a DOI too? |
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pdurbin |
that's my understanding anyway |
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pdurbin |
yes, I believe old studies were assigned DOIs. not sure |
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bencomp |
we may switch to DOI later, but in this migration from UU -> DANS and 3.3 to 3.6 sticking with handles for now seemed safer |
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bencomp |
and we needed the existing ones to keep resolving |
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pdurbin |
oh sure. makes complete sense |
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pdurbin |
one thing at a time |
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