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pdurbin |
skay: pretty interesting, this comment from yesterday: https://github.com/mozillascience/code-research-object/issues/14#issuecomment-42790756 |
| 12:27 |
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pdurbin |
"see data + datadex, which are now part of the Dat Project" |
| 12:29 |
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pdurbin |
looks like https://github.com/jbenet is listed at http://dat-data.com/team.html . very cool. |
| 13:26 |
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skay |
pdurbin: hey, morning. Carl's going to be in your area later in the summer to record http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2014 anyone from dvn ging to be there? |
| 13:26 |
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skay |
I'd like to go but it is at the same time as scipy |
| 13:34 |
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pdurbin |
skay: I don't think so but I'm making a little noise about it here: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2014-05-12 |
| 13:34 |
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pdurbin |
this group is more likely to attend than anyone from Dataverse: http://informatics.fas.harvard.edu |
| 13:34 |
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pdurbin |
but who knows :) |
| 13:35 |
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skay |
Carl was recording write the docs (ignore the lack of styling http://videos.writethedocs.org/ ) and said that someone did a lightning talk on dataverse -- but I couldn't tell from the description whether they actually meant dataverse |
| 13:38 |
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skay |
do you know if anyone from dvn was there? |
| 13:43 |
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pdurbin |
skay: sorry, confused. someone from Datavese gave a talk where now? |
| 13:49 |
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skay |
pdurbin: someone, who may or may not be from dataverse, gave a lightning talk about dataverse (or made up the name and it is a coincidence) |
| 13:49 |
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skay |
a lightning talk is an unplanned 5 minute talk |
| 13:50 |
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skay |
at http://conf.writethedocs.org/ |
| 13:54 |
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pdurbin |
well, we give a lot of talks. not sure which one you mean. but that's ok :) |
| 13:54 |
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pdurbin |
here was a recent talk, for example: http://www.iq.harvard.edu/news/eleni-castro-shares-news-dataverse-network |
| 13:58 |
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pdurbin |
and how dare anyone else call themselves "dataverse" ;) |
| 13:58 |
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pdurbin |
actually, I have half a mind to rename this channel |
| 13:59 |
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skay |
it's like the whedonverse but for data |
| 13:59 |
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pdurbin |
since we're calling the software "Dataverse" now, rather than "Dataverse Network" |
| 13:59 |
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pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky whedonverse |
| 13:59 |
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searchbot |
pdurbin: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Whedonverse |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
oh, the buffy guy |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
yeah, this is exactly what dataverse is trying to be |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
;) |
| 14:00 |
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* skay |
knows him as the firefly guy |
| 14:00 |
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skay |
dv, like df for science |
| 14:07 |
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pdurbin |
for science! |
| 14:07 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies_: nice to see some updates here: https://github.com/CenterForOpenScience/openscienceframework.org/issues/112 |
| 18:01 |
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skay |
pdurbin: jeffspies_ I did not mean to lick the cookie on that. You should get rliebz to take over |
| 18:03 |
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pdurbin |
gross |
| 18:03 |
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pdurbin |
;) |
| 18:08 |
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pdurbin |
skay: jeffspies_ is away on IM. may not reply right away |
| 18:10 |
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skay |
pdurbin: I figured. if he idles he'll probably see the comment in scrollback |
| 18:11 |
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pdurbin |
yup yup |
| 20:06 |
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pdurbin |
axfelix: thanks for reading through the "some thinking behind v1 of the Dataverse Data Deposit API (SWORDv2)" email I mentioned at https://lists.iq.harvard.edu/pipermail/pkp-dataverse-integration/2014-May/000073.html |
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| 20:11 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: how much are you working on SWORD stuff these days? |
| 20:12 |
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jwhitney |
Not much, why? |
| 20:16 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: well, are you familiar with how we are rewriting Dataverse? all the SWORD code I wrote is in old, 3.x code base at https://github.com/IQSS/dvn |
| 20:20 |
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jwhitney |
right, yes |
| 20:21 |
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pdurbin |
the new 4.0 code base does not have any SWORD support yet: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse |
| 20:21 |
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pdurbin |
but this week I'm starting to work on adding it |
| 20:22 |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies_: I'd like to make sure you're aware of all this too |
| 20:24 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: already I'm realizing that the new 4.0 code base just doesn't have all the... features of the old 3.x code base... for example there's no dataverse.getDepositTermsOfUse() method call yet... which should be used in the Service Document |
| 20:24 |
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pdurbin |
so it's going to be a work in progress |
| 20:25 |
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pdurbin |
getting the API to work the same way |
| 20:26 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: but I'd love to have you point the OJS Dataverse plugin at the Dataverse 4.0 SWORD implementation when I'm further along with it |
| 20:27 |
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pdurbin |
axfelix: or you :) |
| 20:28 |
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axfelix |
can pretty much test on demand, just ping me :) |
| 20:29 |
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pdurbin |
axfelix: awesome. thanks. first thing on our end is to figure out which server to deploy to. I'll definitely keep you posted |
| 20:29 |
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jwhitney |
same here. |
| 20:31 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: great. thanks. again, I really, really don't want to break backwards compatibility. the more eyes on this the better |
| 20:33 |
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jwhitney |
Sure. There's some cleanup to be done on the plugin before ojs 2.4.5 & testing on 4.0 now would be a good way to make it better at handling the unexpected |
| 20:33 |
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jwhitney |
are you going to bump the version no. on the api in 4.0? |
| 20:35 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: my plan was to not bump the version number |
| 20:35 |
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jwhitney |
ok, great |
| 20:35 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: do you get what axfelix was saying about a json sidecar? |
| 20:35 |
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pdurbin |
(not that I'd call it that) :) |
| 20:36 |
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jwhitney |
yeah, although have missed discussions on details. How much of what's handled in SWORD now do you want to handle w/ JSON? |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: this is how I think of it... we want to continue supporting SWORD because it's popular in our world |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
but |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
we want dataverse to have more APIs in general |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
need, I would say |
| 20:38 |
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pdurbin |
API endpoints |
| 20:38 |
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pdurbin |
for all sorts of things |
| 20:38 |
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pdurbin |
let's call it a single API, I've been referring to it as our "native API" |
| 20:38 |
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pdurbin |
and it uses JSON |
| 20:40 |
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pdurbin |
SWORD doesn't have any concept of how to create a dataverse |
| 20:40 |
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pdurbin |
but our native API does |
| 20:40 |
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jwhitney |
right, ok. |
| 20:40 |
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pdurbin |
jwhitney: so if you have a need to create a dataverse, I'm going to point you at the native API |
| 20:40 |
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pdurbin |
rather than trying to figure out how to implement that in the context of the SWORD spec |
| 20:41 |
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pdurbin |
axfelix: is this what you meant by your comment about json? |
| 20:42 |
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axfelix |
pretty much, yup |
| 20:42 |
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pdurbin |
cool |
| 20:46 |
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jeffspies_ |
pdurbin: yeah, rliebz is starting his summer internship with us soon, so we'll see an increase in movement soon |
| 20:47 |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies_: ah. great! |
| 20:47 |
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jeffspies_ |
skay: cookie licking--i like that analogy |
| 20:47 |
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pdurbin |
lolz |
| 20:48 |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies_: yeah. what do you think about the future of https://github.com/IQSS/dvn-client-python ? |
| 20:50 |
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jeffspies_ |
pdurbin: we should be able to continue working with it as we write the python stuff necessary to talk to your api, so i say it looks positive |
| 20:51 |
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pdurbin |
great! |
| 20:51 |
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pdurbin |
jeffspies_: I hereby give OSF full authority over pull requests :) |
| 20:52 |
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pdurbin |
such as this one: merge rliebz/dvn-client-python into IQSS/dvn-client-python · Issue #7 · IQSS/dvn-client-python - https://github.com/IQSS/dvn-client-python/issues/7 |
| 20:52 |
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jeffspies_ |
when robert comes in next, i'll point him to that |
| 20:53 |
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pdurbin |
perfect |
| 23:12 |
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pdurbin |
speaking of adding the Data Deposit API into the Dataverse 4.0 code base, here's the ticket I'm using to track this: https://redmine.hmdc.harvard.edu/issues/3385 |
