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18:23 pdurbin
automated testing of Dataverse - Google Groups - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/dataverse-community/X8OrRWbPimA
18:23 pdurbin
who wants to help with automated testing? :)
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19:16 RSA_
hi! I need to fill a text corpus on 'animal'. it could be similiar words/ sentences/ descriptions/namespaces.. what is the easiest way to do that?
19:39 pdurbin
RSA_: hi! are you sure you have the right IRC channel? we talk about http://dataverse.org in here :)
20:06 RSA_
ah right! sorry! but still: dataverse looks like it could be a resource from which I can fill my corpus with.. but I had to learn its API first. I guess there is no easy hackable way to read in text lines about e.g. entity 'animal'
20:08 pdurbin
RSA_: you could use the Search API
20:10 pdurbin
http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.2.1/api/search.html
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21:55 bencomp
pdurbin: no one commented on the issue yet? :(
21:57 bencomp
(...on automated testing)
22:00 pdurbin
bencomp: well, it *was* a long email :)
22:00 bencomp
true :)
22:00 pdurbin
do you have comments?
22:00 bencomp
of course :)
22:00 * pdurbin
sits down
22:01 bencomp
well, I have to do some other things first
22:01 bencomp
then I'll come back to you
22:01 pdurbin
great!
22:02 * bencomp
is captain of Ultimus Prime 2 a.k.a. 24 UP and needs to make sure we get to our games on Sunday
22:15 pdurbin
sounds like an ultimate frisbee team
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used to play ultimate
22:27 bencomp
indeed
22:43 * pdurbin
was never the captain
22:44 bencomp
it's my first time :)
22:45 bencomp
pdurbin: did you hear the SE radio episode on Innovating legacy systems?
22:45 pdurbin
http://www.se-radio.net/2015/11/se-radio-episode-242-dave-thomas-on-innovating-legacy-systems/ ? yes! great episode
22:47 pdurbin
the *other* Dave Thomas :)
23:00 bencomp
what did you think of "rewriting is a complete waste of time"?
23:00 bencomp
commented, btw: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2746#issuecomment-161816377
23:08 pdurbin
bencomp: I think you mean QuickCheck, not QuickTest
23:09 bencomp
thanks, I corrected it in my comment
23:10 pdurbin
much better
23:11 pdurbin
yeah, the rewrite conversation was very interesting. it may have been even more interesting if the two people didn't agree :)
23:13 bencomp
I hadn't really thought about "why would anyone pay to have the same functionality in new technology?"
23:14 pdurbin
sure. I mean, if you're having trouble finding COBOL programmers it makes sense
23:19 bencomp
I had to think of Dataverse
23:21 bencomp
and our conversation about the Second System syndrome
23:25 pdurbin
oh sure
23:25 pdurbin
hmm, did I ever post anything about that? I love the Perl 6 take on Second System
23:26 bencomp
I think you did
23:29 bencomp
why was the "In Review" milestone to "Not Assigned renamed to a Release" by the way? Why not remove the milestone from those issues?
23:29 pdurbin
I guess I mentioned it at http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2015-02-10
23:30 pdurbin
http://tablets.perl6.org/tablet-1-language-design.html#second-system-syndrome
23:30 pdurbin
looks like I heard about it at http://rebuild.fm/78/
23:32 pdurbin
bencomp: I'm not exactly sure what's going on with the milestones but I heard some cleanup is being done.
23:33 bencomp
all but 4.2.2 and 4.2.3 have been removed
23:34 pdurbin
it looks a lot nicer. it looks much more like most other project on github now, I think
23:35 bencomp
does it? I could be wrong
23:35 bencomp
haven't really followed other projects this closely
23:35 bencomp
:)
23:36 pdurbin
bencomp: how could you possibly? ;)
23:37 bencomp
I'm just confused whether the major features are still 'scheduled' for the releases they used to be assigned to
23:37 pdurbin
if I knew I would tell you
23:38 pdurbin
bencomp: I think we have the same data :)
23:40 bencomp
pdurbin: there's no time left for me in 2015 to feel worried, but that's... interesting
23:41 pdurbin
right now I'm trying to work on test automation
23:41 pdurbin
but it's a long road
23:41 pdurbin
so I'll do what I can
23:41 pdurbin
and then move on to other things
23:42 pdurbin
maybe dip into test automation now and then
23:42 pdurbin
I want it to be part of our development process
23:42 pdurbin
we should be asking each other were the tests are
23:42 pdurbin
where*
23:44 bencomp
+100
23:44 pdurbin
bencomp: that podcast got me thinking that I should focus more on integration tests (end to end) but I still want more code coverage (unit tests) too. I want everything for Christmas. :)
23:46 pdurbin
bencomp: but I can't figure out how to measure which code paths are exercised by integration/API tests
23:46 pdurbin
that's why I opened this: Have ITFizzBuzzTest test a Jersey endpoint and show lines executed · Issue #3 · pkainulainen/maven-examples - https://github.com/pkainulainen/maven-examples/issues/3 :)
23:48 pdurbin
bencomp: if you can crack this nut, please let me know!
23:51 bencomp
I'm not sure ITs must be (REST) API based, but that is another discussion
23:53 pdurbin
yeah, I'm probably using the wrong terms
23:53 pdurbin
bencomp: but do you understand what I want? I want to know which code paths are not being exercised by my API tests.
23:54 bencomp
yes I understand very well
23:54 pdurbin
good :)
23:54 pdurbin
bencomp: do you do this for any of your java projects?
23:56 bencomp
I showed you EHRI code before, in which an IT was spinning up a light app environment and calling the methods for importing data into the app
23:57 pdurbin
calling methods but not api endpoints
23:57 bencomp
it's very close
23:58 bencomp
I gotta go now, need to work tomorrow (which is today already...) :)
23:58 pdurbin
:)
23:58 pdurbin
bencomp: thanks for listening
23:58 bencomp
np
