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bencomp pdurbin: thank you for the readme! i tweaked it a little and added a usage example
01:56 donsizemore
you all absolutely won't step on my toes by ripping things out and replacing with something better. i was hoping for your expertise in the glassfish configuration section =)
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16:00 shauna
pdurbin: sure, I can give some advice re: wording for the job advert
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16:43 pdurbin
shauna: great! my version is a variation on what's already posted at https://sbgrid.org/news/sbgrid-affiliate-job-postings
16:44 pdurbin
hold on while I pastebin it
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16:49 pdurbin
shauna: ok. here's my version. just a draft, of course: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/296695/
16:50 pdurbin
what do you think?
16:51 pdurbin
shauna: I tried to take to heart your feedback on a previous version where you said "It's also just a list of things you should be. Have a PhD! Be a strong programmer! Be familiar with databases! There's only a few short bits about what you're expected to *do*." http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2015-11-05#i_26836
16:51 pdurbin
hopefully this is better. tells more about what one would *do* on the job
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18:01 * shauna
clicks the pastebin link
18:02 shauna
"the successful candidate will have a degree" what does this mean?
18:02 shauna
It reads to me as "don't apply unless you have a degree", but it's really weird phrasing (which to be fair I've seen before) so I could be wrong.
18:02 pdurbin
"the successful candidate will have a degree in a quantitative field"
18:03 shauna
Yes, but does that mean people should not apply unless they have a degree in a quantitative field?
18:03 pdurbin
um
18:03 pdurbin
I probably should have changed that.
18:03 shauna
:)
18:03 pdurbin
good point
18:04 pdurbin
I tried to keep most if it in the original voice.
18:05 shauna
I parse the "needed experience" section as including: strong programming experience, knowledge of linux, knowledge of shell scripting, databases, mercurial and git.
18:05 pdurbin
yeah, more or less
18:05 shauna
I don't pass that test, because I don't know mercurial.
18:05 pdurbin
whoops
18:06 pdurbin
should have been an or
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18:06 shauna
How much shell scripting will this candidate need to do? My experience is that it's pretty easy to pick up.
18:07 pdurbin
oh, probably not that much
18:07 shauna
If you want your person to have all of these attributes before applying, with no room to be trained into them on the job, then your language is good.
18:08 shauna
But a lot of people, especially women, assume that statements like "necessary" and "essential" are for real and won't apply unless they have them.
18:08 shauna
So someone might be a total catch, with lots of experience in many of the areas, but not realize that you're willing to get them up to speed on shell scripting, for instance.
18:09 pdurbin
that makes sense
18:09 pdurbin
shauna: is it at least better about describing what the person would do?
18:09 shauna
Yes, definitely.
18:09 pdurbin
cool
18:09 pdurbin
that was my main goal
18:11 shauna
Glad to be of help. :)
18:12 pdurbin
shauna: thanks again
18:22 bricas
hey y'all. is there an option to disable the automatic unzip of files on upload? or am i stuck zipping a zip? (since it seems to only go 1 level deep)
18:24 pdurbin
bricas: you're stuck zipping a zip
18:25 pdurbin
bricas: please see To zip or not to zip · Issue #2107 · IQSS/dataverse - https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2107
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18:44 bricas
pdurbin: thanks!
18:48 pdurbin
any time
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20:08 bricas
pdurbin: have a sec to chat DOI stuff?
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20:23 pdurbin
bricas: shoot
20:25 bricas
pdurbin: (i gotta leave soon, but just leave me a note if you could and i'll read it in a bit)
20:26 bricas
pdurbin: anyway, my q:
20:26 pdurbin
(me too)
20:26 bricas
pdurbin: are DOIs in dataverse an all or nothing thing? we can't say these ones don't get dois, but these do?
20:26 pdurbin
pretty sure it's all or nothing
20:27 pdurbin
every dataset gets a DOI
20:27 pdurbin
well, a persistent identifier
20:27 pdurbin
only DOI is supported at the moment
20:27 bricas
my org wants to use dataverse to house secondary data, which probably already has a doi at the source, but we probably shouldn't generate one (though i don't think it's all that bad)
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20:28 bricas
pdurbin: is there no handle.net support?
20:29 pdurbin
bricas: DRAFT - Handle Functional Requirements Document (FRD) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uRSQ8874ljOk3emH7WRLaoRJ3BIKslJ9LVrN5ANaw2Y/edit?usp=sharing
20:30 pdurbin
not in Dataverse 4. not yet
20:30 pdurbin
bricas: it sounds like you want to use "other id" or whatever we call it
20:30 bricas
oh?
20:31 pdurbin
yeah. "Other ID"
20:32 pdurbin
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.2.1/scripts/api/data/metadatablocks/citation.tsv#L7
20:34 bricas
is this an editable field somewhere?
20:34 pdurbin
yep
20:36 bricas
ah. there it is!
20:37 bricas
so, we can mint identifiers outside dataverse and then enter them as needed.
20:37 pdurbin
yep
20:38 bricas
okay. thanks again. :)
20:38 bricas
cheers.
20:38 pdurbin
cheers
