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16:12 bencomp
pdurbin: what is "status: triaged" about?
16:12 bencomp
and is majorseitan a new team member?
16:14 pdurbin
majorseitan is a volunteer. We added him to a https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/teams/dataverse-readonly so we can assign issues to him.
16:14 pdurbin
If anyone wants issues assigned to them, please let me know! :)
16:15 pdurbin
I believe "Status: Triaged" will be explained as part of https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2594
16:16 pdurbin
bencomp: does that help?
16:25 bencomp
pdurbin: yes, very much, thanks!
16:25 pdurbin
oh sure
16:25 bencomp
I see a mention of the BRD, which I saw a few of
16:26 pdurbin
yeah
16:28 bencomp
that could use some explanation - I commented on one, but don't really know what they are for
16:30 pdurbin
bencomp: I can send you the same two-pager I sent pameyer about new process stuff
16:31 pdurbin
we talked about it at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2016-01-08#i_29382
16:32 bencomp
yes please
16:33 bencomp
can I share it too? with Peter and maybe Marnix?
16:33 pdurbin
you might want to wait for https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2594 to be addressed
16:34 bencomp
well, Peter asked me to comment on the BRDs with deadline Feb 5 - will that issue be closed then so that I know what I am commenting on?
16:34 pameyer
*pameyer needs to get better at process stuff
16:35 bencomp
pameyer: check out FitSM, lightweight IT service management http://fitsm.itemo.org/fitsm/
16:36 pameyer
bencomp: thanks
16:36 pdurbin
bencomp: I sent you the two pager. process stuff is still being defined but I hope it helps
16:37 bencomp
thanks
16:37 pdurbin
sure
16:37 pdurbin
honestly, I'm just trying to focus on fixing bug and working on features, both of which I'll push into branches
16:38 pdurbin
such as https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/2895
16:38 pdurbin
bencomp: thanks again for the kinds words on that pull request
16:38 bencomp
:)
16:40 pdurbin
kind* words
16:40 pdurbin
doing too many things at once
16:54 bencomp
pameyer and pdurbin: I saw your discussion on user stories at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2016-01-08#i_29466
16:54 bencomp
I'm reading "User stories applied" which kinda explains them to be 'pointers for discussion' with users and customers
16:55 pdurbin
searchbot: lucky user stories applied
16:55 searchbot
pdurbin: https://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/books/user-stories-applied
16:55 bencomp
I mean, they're usually not very concrete
16:56 bencomp
they should contain just enough information to get the discussion going, and concrete requirements are added as tests
16:57 * bencomp
goes warm up dinner
16:57 pameyer
bencomp: (when dinner's warm) - does that mean the requirements don't go into the user story?
16:58 pdurbin
pameyer: I'm glad you sent some requirements the other day
16:59 pdurbin
even if I don't completely understand them yet. :)
16:59 pdurbin
Merce, Eleni, and I are going to review them on Thursday.
17:02 pameyer
means I should get the 'in progress' part out of the data model section I put in there
17:04 bencomp
pameyer: if necessary, use any kind of document that you need - doesn't need to go on a user story card (of any form)
17:05 bencomp
but according to the book, in an agile context, users and developers get together regularly and then it's easier to discuss stories, tests and questions rather than e.g. UML
17:07 bencomp
the book doesn't cover business requirements - apparently there will be resources available for development
17:11 bencomp
pdurbin: I don't see anything in the slides you sent about the, errr, business requirements for changing the processes
17:11 bencomp
well, except maybe on the last slide
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22:14 pdurbin
bencomp: I'm not sure if there is a process for changing the process :)
22:16 bencomp
pdurbin: then why is this all happening?
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bencomp: what are you worried about? :)
22:30 bencomp
that "the process" is becoming more complex without a good reason, i.e. change for the sake of change
22:31 bencomp
leading to more overhead and less productive development
22:33 bencomp
but please prove me wrong :)
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22:41 pdurbin_m
time will tell, I guess
22:55 pdurbin_m
I'm feeling accommodating, flexible. ;)
23:00 pdurbin
whoops, that was supposed to be a smiley... :)
23:17 pdurbin
bencomp: I'd be curious to know how you'd measure productivity anyway. I guess there's story points and such. Velocity.
