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12:31 donsizemore
@pdurbin knock knock?
12:32 pdurbin
What do you call a dinosaur with no eyes?
12:34 pdurbin
a doyouthinkhesaurus
12:39 donsizemore
@pdurbin: i actually had a knock knock joke prepared for today!
12:40 pdurbin
who's there?
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canoe
12:42 pdurbin
canoe who?
12:42 donsizemore
canoe run me through a couple of questions about shibboleth?
12:42 pdurbin
heh
12:43 donsizemore
these are more questions for your group, probably, but i didn't know if they were better placed as RT tickets or added to a GitHub issue or what
12:43 pdurbin
meh, I'm sort of the shib guy so please ask away
12:46 donsizemore
question one concerns the attributes released by any and all IdPs
12:47 donsizemore
your getting the "eppn" error points to the Harvard IdP, and I'm not sure whether to anticipate similar issues from any other IdP in the list?
12:48 donsizemore
the second question is a little messier but i'm imagining you all have run into it before
12:49 pdurbin
donsizemore: yes, only "eppn". Did you talk to Jan about this? I was assuming it was in your control but do I need to open an issue with the Harvard identity folks to get attributes beyond "eppn" released to the Dataverse server you run that's listed at https://incommon.org/federation/info/all-entities.html#SPs ?
12:50 donsizemore
getting the attribute released is really what i'm asking about, because Odum would like for its Dataverse to accept logins from any- and everyone
12:50 donsizemore
though a few key universities would be a great start
12:51 pdurbin
I'm still getting "Problem with Identity Provider The SAML assertion for "givenName" was null. Please contact support." at https://dataverse-test.irss.unc.edu when I try to log in with HarvardKey.
12:51 pdurbin
donsizemore: do you think anyone else will be able to log in? I could ping some people from MIT.
12:52 donsizemore
I sent that error message (and your Shib session, and log entries) to Jan on Friday. he responded: "From the log entry, it looks like the Harvard IdP is releasing only eppn to your SP."
12:52 pdurbin
Hmm. Ok. It sounds like I should ask my identity folks what to do.
12:53 pdurbin
donsizemore: it would be interesting to see if people from other universities can log in.
12:54 donsizemore
@pdurbin: i'll ask here at odum to see if we have any good contacts at duke or ncsu. i know a ton of people, but not well enough to ask them to type their Uni credentials into one of my test machines =)
12:54 donsizemore
2nd question is messier to me but hopefully easier to you?
12:56 donsizemore
jan, akio, sophia and i had all signed in with our UNC "onyens" to dataverse-test.irss.unc.edu
12:56 pdurbin
donsizemore: do you think if you get https://dataverse-test.irss.unc.edu listed as a "research-and-scholarship" SP at https://incommon.org/federation/info/all-entity-categories.html#SPs that I'll be able to log in with HarvardKey? I'm been told the Research & Scholarship category is important.
12:56 donsizemore
@pdurbin AH -- I thought we already had that
12:56 donsizemore
@pdurbin thank you, i'll pester Jan
12:58 pdurbin
donsizemore: to be clear, you're not asking people to send their univerisity credentials to your test machine. They send their credentials to their own institution's Identity Provider (IdP). The only thing you get is their name, email address, and eppn.
12:58 donsizemore
good point. i'll ask around here at ncsu and duke
12:59 pdurbin
Shilen Patel at Duke was a huge help to me.
13:01 donsizemore
perfect, i watched several of his training videos
13:01 donsizemore
but first i'll make sure we have the R&S bundle
13:02 pdurbin
yes, please
13:02 donsizemore
so, the accounts dataverse created under the local mini-federation are (were) fine
13:03 donsizemore
but when jan had me pull the mini-federation in favor of InCommon Registration, it tries to create the accounts anew and can't because the have the same eppn (or whichever identifier, sorry it's been since friday evening)
13:03 pdurbin
eppn, yes
13:04 donsizemore
jan's account i could easily delete through the API , but akio and i have uploaded data. i could just blow away the database as this is a test machine, but in case we run into something like this in production i didn't know if you all had a preferred method for dealing with it
13:04 pdurbin
hmm, so maybe you should delete the account? or convert it to a local account?
13:04 donsizemore
i'll try the latter =)
13:05 pdurbin
converting is better if the user has any data or history
13:05 pdurbin
you'll get to try out the new api call :)
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13:10 donsizemore
@pdurbin any chance i could get a link to the documentation? i don't find "convert" or "local " in the Shibboleth or Native API guide pages
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13:11 pdurbin
donsizemore: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/develop/doc/sphinx-guides/source/installation/shibboleth.rst#converting-shibboleth-users-to-local
13:12 donsizemore
the principle of maximum embarrassment: one will always overlook something obvious until one asks
13:13 pdurbin
heh
13:13 pdurbin
happy to get you unblocked
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13:15 donsizemore
@pdurbin: -X PUT -d "dlshttp://localhost:8080/api/admin/authenticatedUsers/id/2/convertShibToBuiltIn {"status":"OK","data":{"email":"dls
13:16 pdurbin
sounds like it worked
13:33 pdurbin
djbrooke: morning. When you have a moment, there are a couple additions I think we should make to http://dataverse.org/developers
13:35 djbrooke
pdurbin: sure, come on by when it's good for you!
13:37 djbrooke
I also have a branch out there for changes to the installation guide - I'll get with Jackson and Eli about adding some more details in the Postgres section and any other feedback they have from Friday
13:41 pdurbin
djbrooke: I'll swing by but here are the links I think we should add so you have them handy:
13:41 pdurbin
- https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dataverse-dev
13:41 pdurbin
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o9DD-MQ0WkrYaEFTD5rF_NtyL8aUISgURsAXSL7Budk/edit?usp=sharing (communtity contibutors)
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14:30 pdurbin
bsilverstein: welcome! :)
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16:34 bjonnh
hi
16:34 bjonnh
pdurbin: I just tested the institution login with University of Illinois at Chicago
16:34 bjonnh
skay: o/
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16:35 skay
o/
16:35 bjonnh
Problem with Identity Provider The SAML assertion for "eppn" was null. Please contact support.
16:35 pdurbin
bjonnh: hi! skay just mentioned. Thanks! I'm sad it didn't work. :(
16:35 pdurbin
didn't work for MIT either: https://botbot.me/freenode/positivepython/2016-06-06/?msg=67373770&page=1 :(
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16:37 bjonnh
well the shibboleth thingy of UIC is weird
16:44 pdurbin
oh
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16:51 bjonnh
I'm not sure I have access to its documentation though
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16:58 pdurbin
According to https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/InCFederation/Research+and+Scholarship+Attribute+Bundle if a Dataverse installation is listed in the "Research & Scholarship" category at https://incommon.org/federation/info/all-entity-categories.html#SPs the Identity Provider (IdP) is "encouraged" to release all the attributes Dataverse asks for:
16:58 pdurbin
http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.3.1/installation/shibboleth.html#shibboleth-attributes
17:03 pdurbin
djbrooke: here's the "initial population of certain fields (if provided), later editable" idea for future development: https://docs.google.com/document/d/157sw9gaFGwrb0EtCGGlLMxSg0cooHfKEvIsjcebPcA8/edit?usp=sharing (out of scope for the current effort)
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17:45 pdurbin
iamtimmo: do you feel like creating the Google doc for tomorrow's community call?
17:50 iamtimmo
pdurbin: Happy to. What's the topic?
17:50 iamtimmo
pdurbin: BTW: I will be on my way to the Connecting Pubs with Repos in Boston during the call, so will not be able to take notes. May be able to listen in, though. Flight is supposed to land at 11:50 AM, I think.
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17:52 pdurbin
iamtimmo: no specific topic other than making sure Danny Brooke, our new project manager, is introduced.
17:53 donsizemore
@pdurbin: i've got Odum's application in for the R&S bundle. I was supposed to do that Friday afternoon/evening, but blissfully forgot about it over the weekend
17:53 iamtimmo
pdurbin: Okay.
17:54 pdurbin
donsizemore: cool. bjonnh tested from UIC. Didn't work. :(
17:54 pdurbin
hopefully R&S will help
17:57 bsilverstein
pdurbin: for what it's worth - Anna Taylor responded to the ticket regarding the machine request
17:58 pdurbin
bsilverstein: yeah. Worst case we can wipe Windows off your laptop and install Ubuntu. :)
17:58 bjonnh
pdurbin: just ping me when you are ready for other tests
17:59 pdurbin
bjonnh: thanks! We're waiting for a server to be listed at https://incommon.org/federation/info/all-entity-categories.html#SPs but I'll be sure to let you know.
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18:01 iamtimmo
pdurbin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sCTBkTCepNSu8aSWm4_UQl4pKptVITGjwCotkEbsZV8/edit
18:01 bsilverstein
pdurbin: I may work on just snagging the free win10 upgrade and dual booting, could have that done by tomorrow unless things pan out with the ticket
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18:01 iamtimmo
pdurbin: I can't update the community call page on dataverse.org
18:02 pdurbin
iamtimmo: perfect. Thanks! djbrooke has access to update http://dataverse.org/community-calls
18:03 pdurbin
bsilverstein: dual booting is fine, of course. I'm trying to eradicate Windows.
18:03 pdurbin
yet
18:04 pdurbin
bmckinney: I gotta run but I'd like to know if you and pameyer would like to meet with Leonid this Thursday or next Thursday or ... please let me know.
18:06 bmckinney
pdurbin: thanks, this thursday would be great!
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18:09 iamtimmo
pdurbin: I'll be in Cambridge Wednesday morning (flight from Logan at 1:45 PM), will you or any of your Dataverse developer colleagues be around? I'd be especially delighted to talk about a couple of issues with the migration experts.
18:10 iamtimmo
I mean: talk with the migration experts about a couple of issues.
18:10 iamtimmo
I don't have any issues with the migration experts. ;-)
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iamtimmo: I think I can help. Let me know what you need - feel free to PM
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