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13:36 pdurbin wow, 18 unread messages at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dataverse-community
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14:54 pameyer pdurbin: I guess that's a sign that you were offline during vacation (which is good)
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15:13 pdurbin no cell coverage in the berkshires
15:13 pdurbin although... my friends are also on t-mobile and they were able to make calls over wifi... I'll have to look into this
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15:20 pdurbin djbrooke: huh, the "mark as duplicate" feature of Google Groups is brilliant!
15:21 djbrooke I want to go this place that has no cell phone service
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15:35 pdurbin :)
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16:38 pdurbin Oh, I see someone had a question at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2017-02-25 . The answer is that there should be no "www" in https://dataverse.harvard.edu
16:39 pdurbin looks like andrewSC and pameyer had a nice chat at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2017-02-24
16:39 pdurbin andrewSC: you're trying to change the code?
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17:34 andrewSC pdurbin: Yeah I'm actually about to make the change now
17:35 pdurbin ah, are you planning to make a pull request?
17:36 andrewSC haha, I would if I thought the code I'm about to write should be a feature ;)
17:36 andrewSC In my case, there's really two outstanding things I need to figure out
17:38 andrewSC After changing the doi.baseurlstring to localhost, the dataverse instance still gets a DOI for new datasets, but somehow it's not providing the 3rd party DOI generator any information about the document.. I am 100% okay with this but I don't understand how you can create a DOI number and not provide the document information that represents this DOI? Hopefully that makes sense. I just need to look at the
17:38 andrewSC ezid api probably to understand this better
17:39 andrewSC The second thing I need to change is code related. I need to remove the check to see if the DOI is registered on publication. Basically I don't want my dataset to be publicly found via DOI once I click publish
17:40 pdurbin Hmm, maybe it should be a feature. Would you be able to write it up as an issue at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues ?
17:40 andrewSC I certainly can :)
17:41 pdurbin Cool. If the feature is what I think it is, others have asked about it too.
17:41 andrewSC interesting..
17:41 andrewSC I'll write it up shortly then
17:41 pdurbin thanks!
17:41 andrewSC npnp
17:46 pameyer andrewSC: I'm about to go offline for a little (back later); but re: how to create the DOI w\out providing any information about it, it's basically registering a placeholder (so the author can use it publications that are being worked on, but not yet public)
17:46 andrewSC gotchaaaa
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18:44 andrewSC after a dataset has been deaccessioned, is there a way to permanently delete it? I just reindexed to be sure but deaccessioned datasets are definitely indexed lol
18:45 andrewSC basically I made a dummy dataset to test out my publishing changes (they work :D) but now I need to remove the dummy dataset from the real datasets
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18:50 andrewSC pameyer: you wouldn't know how to completely delete a deaccessioned dataset would you?
18:50 pameyer andrewSC: not off the top of my head; I'm relatively sure it's designed to be difficult/impossible
18:50 andrewSC awesome
18:51 andrewSC hahaha
18:51 pameyer I think the closest you can come is to null out any info there
18:51 andrewSC I was just looking through the code to see if there was something easy I could do
18:51 andrewSC hmmmmm
18:51 pameyer if it's under the test shoulder, it should disappear when it expires
18:51 andrewSC oh I'm not worried about the DOI part
18:51 andrewSC just on the dataverse instance locally
18:51 pameyer gotcha
18:52 pameyer pdurbin would know better than me, but I don't think there's a straightforward way to delete a published/deaccessioned dataset
18:53 andrewSC gotcha gotcha, I figure it may come down to some sql but i'm not entirely sure where to go looking there either :/
18:53 pameyer it could probably be done with direct database manipulation though
18:53 andrewSC mhm
18:53 pameyer cross messages...
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19:44 andrewSC i guess at this point I'd just need to figure out what tables are relevant to a dataset so i can write something to delete from
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20:27 andrewSC pdurbin: given that I've deaccessioned this dataset. If I wanted to remove the dataset entirely, all I would need to do is delete the row in dvobject and dataset tables right?
20:27 andrewSC where the dvobject row is by id and the dataset row is by identifier
20:28 andrewSC seems like those are the only lingering entries in the db
20:29 andrewSC although there's something that has to be telling dataverse it's deaccessioned somewhere..
20:30 andrewSC gotcha, also need to delete from datasetversion
20:32 andrewSC and termsofuseandaccess
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21:28 pdurbin pameyer: shoot. I missed him. There *is* a way for a superuser to destroy a dataset, from API: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.6/src/test/java/edu/harvard/iq/dataverse/api/UtilIT.java#L409
21:29 pameyer ^ TIL
21:31 pdurbin better that direct database manipulation. ick. :)
21:31 pdurbin well, if someone sees him, please pass it along
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