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02:37 pdurbin
bjonnh: I just posted the notes from today's community call: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/AOJXH3ljaIk/_fwkcHTIAwAJ
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13:08 bjonnh
thx
13:09 pdurbin
yw
13:09 bjonnh
neat S3 support
13:09 pdurbin
yeah, and we plan to use it in production
13:09 bjonnh
http://www.zenko.io/
13:09 bjonnh
^
13:09 bjonnh
think about that
13:10 pdurbin
cute dog: http://j29831emh5lwzq1euii4vztg.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Zenko.jpg
13:10 bjonnh
hah
13:10 bjonnh
well it allows you to have S3 servers on premise that store on azure, S3, wherever
13:11 bjonnh
using the S3 protocol
13:11 pdurbin
interesting, and it's open source
13:20 bjonnh
yes
13:20 bjonnh
I met them a few month ago
13:20 bjonnh
really nice people
13:35 pdurbin
I just got my Dataverse/Glassfish image/container to run as non-root.
13:40 bjonnh
\o/
13:40 bjonnh
YAY
13:40 bjonnh
that's great
13:40 pdurbin
I mean, it's a complete mess but I can log in as dataverseAdmin. :)
13:40 bjonnh
well that's better that what I got
13:40 bjonnh
lets get rid of glassfish now ;)
13:40 bjonnh
where is donsizemore
13:40 bjonnh
:p
13:41 pdurbin
maybe having a partying after the lovely shout out we gave him at https://dataverse.org/blog/dataverse-48-release
13:42 pdurbin
Dataverse 4.8 is out, by the way.
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14:07 pdurbin
speak of the devil
14:11 bjonnh
donsizemore: o/
14:11 bjonnh
donsizemore: what's your opinion on getting rid of glassfish
14:13 donsizemore
@bjonnh i'm not a java programmer. but i did deploy dataverse in payara 5 once =)
14:14 bjonnh
yes I did see that
14:14 bjonnh
what did you think of it?
14:14 donsizemore
@bjonnh i'm not sure what the compatibility would be like with other application servers
14:14 bjonnh
I'm not a java programmer either
14:14 pdurbin
I saw it too: https://github.com/payara/Payara/issues/532#issuecomment-315408770 :)
14:14 bjonnh
but I'm annoyed that we have to use horribly old software and be stuck with it
14:15 donsizemore
@bjonnh i didn't do very much with it other than examine the logs post-deployment, but IIRC it let me sign in and basic functionality was there
14:15 bjonnh
do you still have the config you used?
14:15 bjonnh
or anything that may help?
14:16 donsizemore
@bjonnh i think i nuked it. but it didn't take me very long and i'm happy to try again? i think it was the release candidate of payara 5 that broke the logjam
14:19 pdurbin
Please talk to me about Glassfish 5 vs Payara 5. Why would you want to run one or the other?
14:29 donsizemore
particularly for dataverse, i like stable. i tried the payara installation at your urging, but if glassfish5 is more enterprisey, i'd appreciate not having surprises under the hood
14:31 pdurbin
Heh, well, I was looking for any way to not be stuck on Glassfish 4.1 forever. Payara is supposed to be a drop in replacement so I figured maybe a version of Payara newer that 4.1 would work. That was my hope, anyway.
14:32 donsizemore
have we tried to deploy under glassfish5? i can do that this morning
14:33 pdurbin
Heh. No. It's been out for less than a week: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-dev/imX1Xjven44/BD6xF-LwAAAJ
14:34 pdurbin
donsizemore: I'm surprised to hear you think Glassfish 5 is more enterprisey than Payara. Payara will let you pay for support. Oracle won't let you pay for support for Glassfish anymore.
14:37 donsizemore
@pdurbin oh, i thought they were the early community release deal out ahead of glassfish. if oracle isn't behind glassfish...
14:39 pdurbin
Oracle is behind Glassfish in the sense that it's the reference implementation for a Java EE server. But! Have you heard that Java EE is moving to the Eclipse Foundation?
14:40 pdurbin
See https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-dev/P57Aw9NxNwk/mYrUHQczBwAJ
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15:20 donsizemore
@pdurbin https://hub.docker.com/u/payara/
15:46 pdurbin
cool, there's also Docklands: GlassFish v5 (Java EE 8) Docker Image : Adam Bien's Weblog - http://www.adam-bien.com/roller/abien/entry/docklands_glassfish_v5_java_ee
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17:57 donsizemore
@pdurbin bad news: Dataverse-4.8 and the Payara 5 Alpha no longer play nicely
17:58 pdurbin
boo
17:59 donsizemore
@pdurbin want me to open an issue with them, or an issue with IQSS, or just wait for the beta?
18:01 pdurbin
donsizemore: well, hold on. Is your goal to run Glassfish 5 or Payara 5?
18:01 donsizemore
i thought you preferred payara
18:03 pdurbin
donsizemore: I want what you want. What do you want? :)
18:03 pdurbin
and what bjonnh wants and what Thalia_UM wants
18:04 pdurbin
bret: are you running Dataverse? I forget.
18:04 pdurbin
andrewSC: you're running Dataverse right? I want what you want too. :)
18:04 bret
no I haven't
18:04 andrewSC
pdurbin: lol yes
18:04 bret
didn't realize it was a program
18:05 donsizemore
@pdurbin i never know what i want until somebody else has it and i don't
18:05 bret
also im not involved in scholarly activity much these days
18:05 pdurbin
bret: oh, well, you're welcome here anyway. Tell your friends. :)
18:06 pdurbin
I thought I wanted Docker but now I'm not so sure. ;)
18:08 Thalia_UM
Philip I need your help
18:08 Thalia_UM
I want to try loading the dataverse project into NetBeans
18:09 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: ok, should work
18:09 Thalia_UM
but I want to know if a version is required and what more has to be installed or done
18:09 pdurbin
I'm using Netbeans 8.2 if that helps.
18:10 Thalia_UM
I already downloaded Source code (zip)
18:10 pdurbin
donsizemore: like bjonnh you probably don't want to be on an old version of Glassfish (4.1).
18:11 Thalia_UM
It's the version I have
18:13 Thalia_UM
Which version of glassfish do I have to install? and should I install it in netbeans?
18:13 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: you must use Glassfish 4.1. You can't use a newer version. That's what we're talking about, actually.
18:13 Thalia_UM
Ok
18:14 Thalia_UM
How to install glassfish?
18:15 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.8/developers/dev-environment.html#glassfish
18:15 Thalia_UM
I use Windows
18:15 pdurbin
Windows? Uh oh. Please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3927 Thalia_UM
18:18 Thalia_UM
Thank you Philip :3
18:18 Thalia_UM
I'm gonna check it
18:19 pdurbin
sure
18:20 pdurbin
donsizemore: I do think you should create an issue. But do you want to run Glassfish 5 or Payara 5? I don't have a strong preference.
18:21 pdurbin
I'm happy to type more about what I see the differences are if you want. But I also want to hear what you think.
19:01 donsizemore
@pdurbin i'd want whatever's the most stable and dependable. it does sound like payara has more of a community behind it
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19:49 pdurbin
donsizemore: people in #glassfish seem pretty excited about Payara. That's my impression anyway. And for what it's worth, today Gustavo is wearing a Payara t-shirt. :)
19:49 donsizemore
@pdurbin payara it is =)
19:51 pdurbin
donsizemore: so do you want to create an issue in the Dataverse repo for Payara 5?
19:53 donsizemore
@pdurbin i'm happy to and I can document where deployment breaks under payara (creating EJB timers) but the 5 release is only in alhpa
19:53 donsizemore
^^alpha
19:53 pdurbin
oh, right. hmm
19:53 pdurbin
So youre thinking on Payara vs Glassfish is about the community behind them?
20:12 pdurbin
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