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12:30 pdurbin
bjonnh: interesting, thanks
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15:13 Thalia_UM
Good morning :)
15:13 Thalia_UM
I was already told that if I can store the data locally in the database, but with the use of the API they refer to inserting elements by means of curl?
15:14 Thalia_UM
through the use of SWORD API
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15:32 Thalia_UM
the work team has already been working with the SWORD API , only that they have me left the interface, that the interface has already the values of the web services locally.
15:43 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: good morning. I'm not sure what you are asking. dcterms:subject is the XML element to use with SWORD if that helps. Please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.8.4/api/sword.html#create-a-dataset-with-an-atom-entry
15:49 Thalia_UM
I got an email by gmail from Julian Gautier and he told me about one of Dataverse's APIs
15:51 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: ok. Did you see he left you a comment at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4282 ?
15:52 Thalia_UM
Yes , is that
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15:55 knikolla
o/
15:56 pdurbin
hey, there knikolla I was just admiring your shiny new Service Provider at https://incommon.org/federation/info/entity.html?entityID=https%3A%2F%2Fsso.massopen.cloud%2Fincommon&technical=true
15:56 knikolla
pdurbin: sure does look shiny. i can't really test it yet since BU doesn't send even an eppn
15:57 pdurbin
ah, bummer. I wonder if BU is on my list...
15:57 pdurbin
Yeah, it is: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3749
15:58 pdurbin
'ends up with a terrible user experience back on the Dataverse side, an error that says, "Problem with Identity Provider The SAML assertion for "eppn" was null.'
15:58 knikolla
pdurbin: yeah, i remember that
15:59 knikolla
so technically, since Harvards does send us an eppn, you can test this https://sso.massopen.cloud/auth/realms/moc/account
15:59 knikolla
this is the entry point for users
15:59 knikolla
pdurbin: arg, error
15:59 knikolla
let me fix that
16:00 knikolla
pdurbin: oh no, it's fine... the error is for me since i don't have an eppn
16:00 knikolla
forgot i'm sill on the BU session
16:01 pdurbin
It auto-populates my eppn for "Username" but I'm wondering if I can pick something that's not so long and random.
16:01 knikolla
you can change that to whatever you want
16:02 knikolla
i will populate that with your email once i have BU send me something so I can test it.
16:02 pdurbin
It looks like I was able to create an account. Neat.
16:05 knikolla
pdurbin: cool! we've also applied for the research and scholarship category in incommon
16:05 knikolla
this is still confusing for me.
16:06 pdurbin
Nice. Harvard's IdP recently joined.
16:07 knikolla
pdurbin: what does being in that category mean exactly, versus being just in the registered category?
16:07 knikolla
the docs weren't too clear
16:08 pdurbin
Please see https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/InCFederation/Research+and+Scholarship+Attribute+Bundle which I link to from http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.8.4/installation/shibboleth.html#identity-federation
16:10 pdurbin
From the Dataverse perspective, we currently only allow SAML/Shibboleth login from members of R&S because R&S IdPs release the attributes Dataverse needs for a successful login (eppn, givenName, sn, email). R&S encourages the release of these attributes.
16:11 knikolla
pdurbin: so a non-R&S sp doesn't get anything? or only eppn?
16:14 pdurbin
Uh, I'm not sure. My mental model of it is that R&S IdPs trust R&S SPs. R&S IdPs are generally willing to release attributs to R&S SPs, I mean. I hope that makes sense.
16:15 knikolla
i like the "generally willing".
16:16 pdurbin
well, that wiki says they are encouraged :)
16:19 knikolla
pdurbin: having a minimum 'required' baseline would make things a lot easier. non-RS -> only eppn. RS -> email, name, eppn.
16:19 knikolla
i thought the point of the federation was to get rid of sideloads.
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16:28 Thalia_UM
Hi jgautier
16:28 jgautier
Hi Thalia. How are you?
16:28 Thalia_UM
What does the comment you left on github mean?
16:29 Thalia_UM
Fine thanks and you?
16:30 jgautier
I'm glad you asked :) That's why I logged on IRC .
16:33 jgautier
So in my last comment I was trying to say that we would like to encourage your team to store the controlled vocabulary in the database.
16:33 jgautier
And update the database, maybe using APIs.
16:38 jgautier
Could you elaborate some more on your last comment?
16:39 jgautier
Want to make sure we understand what you mean by wanting to change the input by select to break down other values.
16:39 Thalia_UM
I have already added data to the database, in fact I just uploaded an image of how the Subject part was left but now I want to make the change from type input to select.
16:39 Thalia_UM
the vocabulary is already stored
16:42 Thalia_UM
We have to consume web services, which in the end said that they had the data locally, but when consuming, those data are not saved by what I saw, which has to be stored in the database to respect the structure of the form .
16:44 Thalia_UM
Now what I want is to change the labels or type of label, where we have default values for instead of inserting text, we just select the values that we already have
16:44 Thalia_UM
Because I imagine that changing the labels will not be a problem because they do not depend on a database unless it is a list.
16:46 jgautier
Ah okay. So you'd like to change the "Subjects" metadata label, for example, to something else? Yes, I don't think that's a problem :)
16:48 Thalia_UM
That part I already did
16:48 jgautier
At first I thought you meant changing the bootstrap input type, from checkboxes to something else.
16:48 Thalia_UM
Now what I want is to change the text input labels by a selection menu
16:49 Thalia_UM
I did not understand that
16:51 jgautier
Okay, no problem. I'll try getting help from our developers
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wakes up
17:07 pdurbin
jgautier: did you have a question? :)
17:11 jgautier
Haha, yes. I'm not familiar what Thalia is asking.
17:11 pdurbin
knikolla: I'd like to improve Dataverse such that givenName, sn, and email are optional but I think Dataverse will always need eppn or *something* to uniquely identify a user.
17:12 Thalia_UM
Thanks
17:12 Thalia_UM
Sorry
17:12 jgautier
Thought it would be helpful if we chat with a developer
17:12 Thalia_UM
Yes
17:13 Thalia_UM
What is your area of knowledge?
17:13 Thalia_UM
jgautier
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17:28 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: jgautier is in my office and we are trying to understand what you mean when you say "Now what I want is to change the text input labels by a selection menu". In the screenshot you uploaded today, it says "Subject". Is that what you want to change? The word "Subject"? If not, which word? An example will help us understand. Or another screenshot. :)
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17:32 Thalia_UM
Sure
17:40 Thalia_UM
The image is already
17:41 Thalia_UM
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4282
17:44 Thalia_UM
the fields that I want to change are Affiliation, Kind of data, Softwate,
17:49 jgautier
Thanks! So you'd like to use vocabularies for these fields as well.
17:50 Thalia_UM
yes
17:51 Thalia_UM
But first i want to change the tags of XHTML
17:51 jgautier
pdurbin reminded us of an effort to improve Dataverse's documentation for changing metadata blocks (https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3168)
17:51 jgautier
It needs some work and we haven't had time unfortunately. But the doc that tries to explain how the metadata block .tsv files work is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1idh4wvCcoxSo7rPkolOkTD5Wvn6PQO__uXqkf7eQujA/edit #
18:13 Thalia_UM
Can I change the interface part?
19:00 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: I left you a comment at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4282#issuecomment-350821601 about the interface. I hope it makes sense.
19:01 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: notice how authorIdentifierScheme has allowControlledVocabulary set to true
19:04 Thalia_UM
I don't understand how change at XHTML files
19:06 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: are you sure you want to run a fork of Dataverse? That seems to be the path you are on.
19:08 Thalia_UM
What is fork?
19:13 pdurbin
When you are running a fork you cannot easily upgrade to the latest version of Dataverse. Your customizations would only be in your fork.
19:13 pameyer
Thalia_UM: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13389751/change-tag-using-javascript may help with your latest screenshot
19:14 Thalia_UM
Yes i understand and i know
19:15 Thalia_UM
But that's what they're asking me to do
19:17 Thalia_UM
I have also analyzed that part and I agree but my team want the change to the interface and later they will worry about the updates.
19:18 Thalia_UM
Thank you pameyer
19:18 Thalia_UM
:)
19:19 Thalia_UM
pameyer: Can i change with javascript?
19:19 pameyer
Thalia_UM: you're welcome
19:19 pameyer
you *should* be able to change the type of HTML element after xhtml -> html in javascript
19:20 pameyer
the trick will be making sure the id's and element structure still match sufficiently for JSF/primefaces to pull the values out when the user hits the "save" button
19:22 Thalia_UM
Thanks pameyer, I'll try
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19:48 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: hi, are you still there?
20:45 Thalia_UM
yes
20:46 Thalia_UM
sorry i went to eat
20:46 Thalia_UM
What happen? :)
20:48 pdurbin
Thalia_UM: can you please email Gustavo and explain what you are trying to do? Here is his profile: https://www.iq.harvard.edu/people/gustavo-durand . He also said you could email the Google Group.
20:49 Thalia_UM
yes
20:49 pdurbin
thanks
20:52 pameyer
pdurbin: any thoughts on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4369?
20:53 pdurbin
pameyer: oh, at standup I said I'd review your pull request. I haven't yet.
20:53 pameyer
no hurry ;)
20:53 pameyer
and that counts as a thought
20:55 pdurbin
:)
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