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13:29 pdurbin
pameyer: morning, question about https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4560
13:30 pameyer
pdurbin: morning - what are you wondering about?
13:30 pameyer
I haven't had a chance to try out your latest suggestion :(
13:30 pameyer
yet
13:31 pdurbin
ok, at standup yesterday I said I'd follow up so I just did. thanks :)
13:31 pameyer
that was an easy question :)
13:33 pdurbin
Oh, I played around with https://github.com/publiclab/community-toolbox a bit last night. I heard about it at LibrePlanet.
13:33 pdurbin
You can see a demo at https://publiclab.github.io/community-toolbox/
13:34 pdurbin
And it seem to work fine with the Dataverse issue tracker: https://publiclab.github.io/community-toolbox/examples/embed.html#o=IQSS&r=dataverse&l=first-timers-only
13:34 pameyer
interesting
13:34 pameyer
although npm and grunt make me cautious; at least partly from experience
13:35 pdurbin
Well, you can just use their installation. You don't have to install it yourself. You just pass in the right parameters.
13:36 pdurbin
For more context, see https://publiclab.org/wiki/software-outreach#First-timers-only and the video of the talk I attended: https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/sharing-strategies-for-welcoming-newcomers-into-floss-projects-first-timers-only-list-moderation-and-more/
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14:47 pdurbin
Oh, and they're on Gitter, which is kind of neat: https://gitter.im/publiclab/publiclab
14:47 pdurbin
I shared some thoughts on the talk at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4505#issuecomment-376524919
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15:47 Thali_UM
Hiiiiiii Philip
15:47 Thali_UM
Good morning
15:47 Thali_UM
i have a question
15:48 pdurbin
good morning!
15:48 Thali_UM
if I add values in the value controller, is it shown in the interface ???
15:49 pdurbin
"value controller"? Do you mean "controlled vocabulary"?
15:49 Thali_UM
yes
15:50 Thali_UM
Controlled vocabulary
15:51 pdurbin
It should show in the interface if you added them correctly. How are you adding them?
15:51 Thali_UM
I Still not add anything
15:53 Thali_UM
I intend to add the field in the datasetfieldtype and then the list of controlled vocabulariy
15:53 Thali_UM
Is it correct?
15:54 pdurbin
Oh, by directly modifying the database? No, please don't do that. Please try using the API instead, like this: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.8.6/scripts/api/setup-datasetfields.sh
15:56 Thali_UM
That's why I wanted to consult with you before making modifications.
15:56 Thali_UM
Thanks Philip
15:57 Thali_UM
i will try using that API
15:58 pdurbin
Sure. Are you creating your own custom metadata block?
15:59 Thali_UM
What exactly do it do when executing curl http: // localhost: 8080 / api / admin / datasetfield / loadNAControlledVocabularyValue?
16:02 pdurbin
Thali_UM: do you see the list of metadata blocks in that script? citation, geospatial, etc?
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16:58 Thali_UM
Yes
16:59 Thali_UM
I see them
17:30 Thali_UM
I want to add new fields to the datasets form
18:15 pdurbin
Thali_UM: if you are adding new fields, you should create a custom metadata block. Do you know what I mean by this? Here is where we add custom metadata blocks to Harvard Dataverse, for example: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.8.6/scripts/api/setup-optional-harvard.sh#L47
18:19 Thali_UM
How can I do that?
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18:21 Thali_UM
That line, what does it do?
18:22 Thali_UM
what part of the directory should I be to execute Curl?
18:24 pdurbin
Oh, you have to be in the "scripts/api" directory for those examples. Here's one of the TSV files that has a controlled vocabulary: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/develop/scripts/api/data/metadatablocks/customPSRI.tsv
18:26 pdurbin
Thali_UM: unfortunately, the process of creating custom metadata blocks is not well documented. Please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3168
18:28 Thali_UM
yes, I already got confused how to do it, and I do not know where part of the directory should be, because I always work in / usr / local / glassfish4 / glassfish / domains / domain / applicationn / dataverse and there are the xhtml files
18:33 pdurbin
It's very confusing.
18:35 pdurbin
Thali_UM: if you want, please go ahead and leave a comment on that issue.
18:47 Thali_UM
Where
18:47 Thali_UM
in github?
18:49 pdurbin
Yes. On that GitHub issue: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3168
18:59 Thali_UM
I need install a metadata block??
19:07 pdurbin
I would.
19:07 pdurbin
I wouldn't recommend modifiying one of the standard metadata blocks such as the citation metadata block.
19:17 Thali_UM
And this in turn shows the metadata when exporting them?
19:20 pdurbin
Yes.
19:22 pdurbin
Thali_UM: if you scroll down at https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataverse/mra you can see some custom fields on the left such as "Murray Research Archive Collection"
19:26 Thali_UM
Yes
19:26 Thali_UM
That is what I want
19:27 Thali_UM
I do not know where to start
19:27 pdurbin
First, you create a file like this: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.8.6/scripts/api/data/metadatablocks/customMRA.tsv
19:28 pdurbin
Then you load it up with something like this: curl http://localhost:8080/api/admin/datasetfield/load -X POST --data-binary @/tmp/customMRA.tsv -H "Content-type: text/tab-separated-values"
19:29 Thali_UM
OK I will try
19:29 pdurbin
cool
19:31 Thali_UM
Where do I keep the file?
19:32 pdurbin
In the example above it's in /tmp
19:32 pdurbin
but anywhere is fine
19:40 Thali_UM
really
19:40 Thali_UM
Thank you philip :3
19:40 pdurbin
:)
19:41 pdurbin
you're welcome
19:41 Thali_UM
I admire you
19:42 pdurbin
thanks
19:42 pdurbin
You're trying to use the "domain-specific or custom fields" feature at https://dataverse.org/software-features and this feature is not well documented so I appreciate you trying to get it to work.
19:45 Thali_UM
What is the difference of both??
19:46 pdurbin
"custom" means anything you want
19:46 pdurbin
"domain-specific" means for a specific domain of study such as structural biology
19:46 Thali_UM
Custom fields
19:47 pdurbin
Dataverse ships with a few domain-specific metadata blocks: social science, astronomy, geospatial, etc.
19:48 Thali_UM
yes is custom fields
19:49 pdurbin
Would the custom fields you're creating be interesting to any other installation of Dataverse? Would another installation of Dataverse want to use your custom fields? Or are the custom fields very specific to your institution?
19:50 pdurbin
I'm asking because if you are creating a custom metadata block that would be useful to other installations of Dataverse, you could make a pull request and add it to the code.
19:55 Thali_UM
remember that we are participating in a call for repositories and most have done for literature, but we are one of the few who searched for a repository for datasets, and there are several institutions that probably use dataverse to control datasets, but a month ago they updated the values that we must insert and that is why I am again with the repositories.
20:00 pdurbin
I remember.
20:00 pdurbin
Sort of. :P :)
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20:03 pameyer
"such as structural biology" - reminds me that we haven't made a PR for that block yet
20:03 pameyer
it is in a publicly visible google sheet though
20:04 pdurbin
pameyer: do it. do it
20:04 Thali_UM
Philip, I finished the file and execute the curl
20:04 pdurbin
no one knows structural biology in this channel like you do
20:04 pameyer
pdurbin: I want to give the other structural biologists a chance to use it and tell me where to fix it first ;)
20:04 pdurbin
Thali_UM: wow, already?
20:04 Thali_UM
yes
20:08 pdurbin
pameyer: I just uploaded some screenshots having to do with "more context when someone clicks the Contact or Support" button, if you're interested: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/1916#issuecomment-379348209
20:09 pdurbin
Thali_UM: you might be interested in those also
20:10 pdurbin
andrewSC: you have an installation. You could look too.
20:11 pameyer
pdurbin: I'll check it out
20:14 pdurbin
cool
20:28 pdurbin
That's interesting. "qqmyers" isn't listed at https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/people but I was able to assign https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4511 to him.
20:28 pdurbin
I wonder if this is a new feature of GitHub.
20:29 pdurbin
Or a bug. :)
20:30 pdurbin
I may need to take back what I said about the "read only team" at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.8.6/developers/version-control.html#find-or-create-a-github-issue
20:31 pdurbin
because it's way easier to not go through the process of inviting someone to join your GitHub organization
20:32 pdurbin
Oh, issue labels can now have descriptions, which is nice: https://blog.github.com/2018-02-22-label-improvements-emoji-descriptions-and-more/
20:40 Thali_UM
thank you philip
20:41 Thali_UM
Good weekend!
20:41 pdurbin
You too! To everyone. I'm heading out.
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21:33 sean-dooher
Hey, is anyone around that has experience creating external tools?
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