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13:06 pdurbin
donsizemore: morning. Thanks for https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/5395 . Overall it's a great improvement but I left a comment to quibble a bit about credentials. :)
13:09 poikilotherm
pdurbin: morning :-)
13:09 poikilotherm
I finally had a chance to ask my boss about an internship at Harvard yesterday...
13:10 pdurbin
Oh! And? :)
13:10 poikilotherm
Well he was interested
13:10 poikilotherm
I need to provide a summary what we would do within that week and if that makes sense
13:11 poikilotherm
(for us as the library of FZJ)
13:12 poikilotherm
Before I go ahead, I really would like to speak with people like you and Gustavo and maybe more about this
13:12 pdurbin
I would start with Danny, actually.
13:12 pdurbin
Do you need his email address?
13:12 poikilotherm
Yeah, talking to the boss in charge sounds good
13:12 poikilotherm
Yes please
13:13 pdurbin
It's at https://www.iq.harvard.edu/people/danny-brooke
13:13 poikilotherm
Thx
13:14 poikilotherm
Shall I put you in CC?
13:14 pdurbin
Meh. That's ok. I have my one on one with him every Thursday so I'll just add it to my list of stuff to talk about tomorrow.
13:15 poikilotherm
Err - is this a yes or no?
13:15 pdurbin
a no
13:15 poikilotherm
Thx :-D
13:15 pdurbin
sorry, confusing :)
13:15 poikilotherm
No worries
13:16 pdurbin
"meh" indicates a lack of enthusiasm :)
13:16 pdurbin
lack of enthusiasm for more email :)
13:17 donsizemore
@pdurbin "By default Dataverse attempts to register DOIs for each dataverse, dataset, and file under a test authority, though you must register for your own credentials as explained above." Eh? Eh?
13:18 pdurbin
donsizemore: perfect. Ship it. Thanks for understanding. I'l leave it in code review though so others can take a look.
13:18 poikilotherm
pdurbin: Yeah, I got that, but was confused by "that's ok" right beyond it... ;-)
13:19 pdurbin
sometimes I confuse myself :)
13:23 pdurbin
poikilotherm: oh! I have a video clip for you to watch. Do you know who Adam Bien is?
13:23 poikilotherm
Yeah, great guy giving Java classes at MCU
13:23 poikilotherm
Err.. MUC. Munich Airport, anyway
13:24 pdurbin
yes, airhacks
13:24 pdurbin
the clip is linked from https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1072466338994679808 but you should back it up to where he starts answering my question
13:26 pdurbin
... and please watch until 17:50 to be sure you hear his comments on Glassfish vs. Payara.
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13:30 benilton
guys, is it possible to run dataverse locally (and properly) without DataCite/Handle accounts? (my understanding, from the docs, is that this is a no-go... but wanted to confirm)
13:32 pdurbin
benilton: hi! For developers, not until we work on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5327 (which is in the "Ready" column of our Kanban board). Or are you talking about production?
13:35 benilton
we're still at the devel level.... but knowing this information for production is important for management decisions (like budget)
13:36 pdurbin
Absolutely. That's why I wrote, "How much does it cost to subscribe to a service to create persistent identifiers such as DOIs or handles?" under http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.9.4/installation/prep.html#decisions-to-make
13:36 pdurbin
benilton: you can get a discount from DataCite by joining the new consortium, I hear
13:38 benilton
I see.... will double check with them
13:38 benilton
many thanks
13:38 pdurbin
sure, have you found the website?
13:39 pdurbin
here it is: http://dataversecommunity.global
13:39 pdurbin
also, I hear Handles are cheaper than DOIs, if that helps
13:40 benilton
it does help
13:40 benilton
:-D
13:41 benilton
will do my homework and study these docs... thanks a lot.
13:41 pdurbin
no problem and please keep the questions coming
13:42 benilton
in summary, for production, we *must* have either DataCite or Handle, correct?
13:44 pdurbin
yeah, it's a feature, I guess... it means you're serious about data? :)
13:44 benilton
gotcha! ;)
13:46 pdurbin
I'm not sure if we wrote about the philosophy anywhere.
13:48 pdurbin
benilton: I'd suggest leaving a comment on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/3652 which was opened by andrewSC
13:51 benilton
thanks for the info...
13:52 benilton
will try to get info on costs through DataCite... any chance you have any idea of how much that would go through the consortium?
13:53 pdurbin
I think they have a page on that.
13:53 pdurbin
I'm not sure if I should say "they" or "we". :)
13:54 pdurbin
benilton: I see some dollar signs at http://dataversecommunity.global/services
13:54 benilton
aha!!! ok... let me go do my homework at stop bothering you! ;)
13:54 benilton
thanks!
13:55 pdurbin
sure
14:02 poikilotherm
pdurbin: wow, that was hard work. Just dropped djbrooke a mail.
14:02 pdurbin
long email?
14:02 poikilotherm
I tried to keep it short
14:02 pdurbin
"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter."
14:03 poikilotherm
260 words
14:03 poikilotherm
1500 chars incl. spaces
14:03 poikilotherm
I think that's a fair deal with context and stuff in place
14:04 pdurbin
yeah
14:08 pdurbin
poikilotherm: please ping me after you watch that clip
14:08 pdurbin
donsizemore: do you control DNS for dataversecommunity.global?
14:10 poikilotherm
pdurbin: ping
14:11 pdurbin
poikilotherm: any thoughts on the clip?
14:13 poikilotherm
I can just cite him: https://youtu.be/kaZwT3IdGZk?t=1050
14:13 poikilotherm
Altough he calls you "Patrick"
14:13 poikilotherm
"Could be a great option" and "You won't regret it" and "as OSS as Glassfish plus patches from community"
14:14 pdurbin
I've been called worse. :)
14:16 pdurbin
that reminds me, did you see https://twitter.com/Payara_Fish/status/1072149329698267142 ?
14:17 poikilotherm
Nope, didn't see that yet
14:17 poikilotherm
Maybe this is related to my activity... ;-)
14:18 poikilotherm
Should I answer to that and tell 'em that this is not the hole stroy?
14:20 pdurbin
I do suspect it's related to your activity. :)
14:20 pdurbin
Oh, it's "whole", by the way.
14:22 poikilotherm
Whoops :-) Thx. Keep the corrections coming - I try to improve :-)
14:22 pdurbin
English is crazy. You're doing great.
14:23 poikilotherm
Well you are not using Payara 5 yet, are you? I linked the Payara 5 stuff from a few issues I opened at the Docker image repo and upstream payara issue tracker
14:23 poikilotherm
But yeah, I can't be sure
14:23 pdurbin
nope, we're stuck on Glassfish 4.1
14:23 pdurbin
with patches
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15:16 poikilotherm
Oi pdurbin, that list you gave me - was this really "xibri" as the last entry? Only can find a "xibriz" user on GH...
15:17 poikilotherm
Ah sry for the noise
15:17 poikilotherm
Read up the logs again
15:24 pdurbin
copy/paste error. sorry
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15:24 pdurbin
MrK: how's it going?
15:25 donsizemore
@pdurbin I think Jon does, I can ask?
15:25 MrK
pdurbin: hi, pretty alright just heading home :D
15:27 pdurbin
MrK: cool. Lots of chatter on the Flyway issue. I'm not sure what the status is.
15:27 pdurbin
donsizemore: that's ok, just curious
15:27 MrK
ah yeah i had a question, do you guys have problems with integration tests? My friend tries to boot it up with documentation but even when following there are still fails and errors.
15:28 pdurbin
MrK: yes, please see https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5393 but are we on the same commit? I'm on 881694b, the latest in develop.
15:30 MrK
hmm my friend is doing this so I'm not sure on which one but I'm 99% positive that it's latest develop, I will tell him tomorrow to try develop with previous commits.
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15:41 pameyer
@pdurbin @donsizemore - Dataverse application registers PIDs for dataverses?
15:44 donsizemore
@pameyer heh. oops.
15:44 donsizemore
@pameyer what I get for typing words so early.
15:45 pameyer
@donsizemore that's why cr, right?
15:46 pameyer
iterating on docs is better than lack of docs
16:16 pdurbin
this is why I left it in code review :)
16:21 pameyer
pdurbin: did you see that api tests aren't failing for me?
16:51 pdurbin
nope, good to know, thanks
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17:14 cdsp-rmo
hello world
17:14 cdsp-rmo
pdurbin: I saw you had troubles with tests and latest in develop
17:15 cdsp-rmo
on my side, I had no troubles while building the war file. The tests failing you are talking about are made at building ?
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18:26 pdurbin
no, not while building the war file
18:38 sh0rtwave
who/huh?
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19:32 donsizemore
@pdurbin knock knock?
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20:05 pameyer
@donsizemore - sprint planning meeting just ended
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20:08 donsizemore
i first read that as "spirit planning meeting"
20:12 donsizemore
@pameyer may i ask a favor of you? you have a Harvard Key, yes?
20:40 pdurbin
donsizemore: I have the key
20:44 donsizemore
@pdurbin you've got the secreeeettt? (and i need a favor pretty please)
20:46 pdurbin
I am the key master.
20:47 donsizemore
@pdurbin could you try to log in to https://dataverse-test.irss.unc.edu
20:48 donsizemore
@pdurbin i ask because dataverse.unc.edu has the shibboleth-embedded-ds rpm installed; dataverse-test does not
20:48 pdurbin
donsizemore: I'm in! Apparently, I already have an account on that server. :)
20:49 pdurbin
should work for pameyer too
20:49 donsizemore
excellent. i saw you removed the -embedded-ds rpm in your PR
20:49 pdurbin
yeah
20:49 donsizemore
danny asked if i wanted to make a PR for upgrading Shib but it'll conflict with your unless i wait
20:49 donsizemore
all i'll do is remove the version from the package name
20:50 pdurbin
you should do your thing. please don't worry about my PR
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