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11:17 poikilotherm
Morning pdurbin - are you around already?
11:31 pdurbin
poikilotherm: morning. Not in the office yet but what's up?
11:33 poikilotherm
Did you guys look into sth like my suggestion back in 2015? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5585
11:33 poikilotherm
(Sometimes things are not written down...)
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11:49 pdurbin
well, we documented how to configure jhove in https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4861
11:49 poikilotherm
Yeah, that's fine
11:50 poikilotherm
It could make the installer and other places easier if the XSD does not need to be installed locally
11:50 pdurbin
better than no docs, but I hear yout
11:50 pdurbin
you*
11:50 poikilotherm
For a "workaround" for kubernetes#4 I simply added the sed
11:50 pdurbin
mmm, sed
11:50 poikilotherm
The installer does the very same
11:51 pdurbin
sure but do you really want that file going over the wire all the time? seems a bit brittle
11:51 pdurbin
welcome, mouse20
11:51 poikilotherm
That's why I'm asking - actually this file should only be needed once on startup of Dataverse, when the jhove.conf is loaded and validated
11:52 pdurbin
gotcha
11:52 pdurbin
well, you could make a pull request and see what Leonid thinks
11:53 pdurbin
he's the one with the strongest opinions about it, probably
11:53 poikilotherm
*G*
11:53 poikilotherm
Aye
11:53 pdurbin
There are other XSDs Dataverse uses. For validation or whatever.
11:57 pdurbin
"Generally speaking, unit tests have been flagged as non-essential because they are slow or because they require an Internet connection." https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/4989/files
11:58 poikilotherm
Yeah and I found JhoveFileType.java:92
11:58 poikilotherm
Seems like JHove is initialised everytime a file is checked
11:59 poikilotherm
Sounds like the architecture might need some improvement...
12:03 pdurbin
It's open source. :)
12:03 poikilotherm
Yeah
12:04 poikilotherm
Its just...
12:04 poikilotherm
Well you find something and try to change.
12:04 poikilotherm
Then you have Pandorra around.
12:04 poikilotherm
Always
12:04 pdurbin
ah, "jb.init(configFile, saxClass);
12:04 pdurbin
at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.11/src/main/java/edu/harvard/iq/dataverse/util/JhoveFileType.java#L92
12:05 pdurbin
I see what you mean.
12:06 pdurbin
So you really don't want that XSD being downloaded over and over, each time a file is checked.
12:08 poikilotherm
Yeah that would be no good design...
12:08 poikilotherm
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5585#issuecomment-468249311
12:27 pdurbin
Is this a situation where you could make a pull request just for feedback on the approach?
12:27 poikilotherm
Sure. But not today. Maybe in 2 weeks when I'm back ;-)
12:28 pdurbin
ok
12:28 poikilotherm
Concentrating on dataverse-kubernetes issue for today ;-)
12:29 pdurbin
sure, hooray for sed
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13:45 poikilotherm
pdurbin: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes#configuration-of-dataverse
13:52 poikilotherm
Hopefully my colleague will get up with a Dataverse installation while I am not in the office...
14:07 poikilotherm
Alright, that's it for me for today and the next two weeks... :-)
14:07 poikilotherm
Cu all
14:10 pdurbin
have a nice vacation
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15:02 humberto
i wnat to lnow if anyone can send me some info about examples to config ldap authentication in dataverse
15:02 humberto
really appreciate your help
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15:19 pdurbin
humberto: hi! LDAP or Active Directory?
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15:24 pameyer
humberto: one of the things I've learned recently is that "ldap" isn't precise enough for configuring ldap auth
15:24 pdurbin
pameyer: oh? What do you mean?
15:24 pameyer
ldap isn't officially supported as an authentication mechanism; but depending on the ldap server it can sometimes be made to work through shibboleth
15:24 humberto
hi active directory
15:24 pdurbin
pameyer: active directory should work, right?
15:25 pameyer
pdurbin: AD and freeipa are both "ldap", but wildly different as far as dataverse is concerned
15:25 humberto
ok i can explore shibboleth auth
15:25 pameyer
humberto: that _should_ be easier
15:25 humberto
or any other OAUTH 2
15:25 pameyer
I don't know if it's in a release yet, but there are some example configuration files in the dataverse repository
15:25 humberto
mechanism
15:25 pdurbin
humberto: you're using ADFS, right? Please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.11/installation/shibboleth.html#shibboleth-and-adfs
15:26 pameyer
pdurbin: thanks for having the link handy :)
15:26 pdurbin
my friends call me "linky" ;)
15:26 pameyer
there are 3 oauth2 providers that dataverse supports (orcid,github,google) - but no generic oauth2
15:26 pameyer
no idea if AD does oauth2 or not
15:27 humberto
pdurbin:jejej thanks
15:27 pdurbin
humberto: which OAuth2 provider do you need support for?
15:28 humberto
i believe that microsoft 365 supports OAUTH but for now i need to review that
15:28 pdurbin
huh, interesting
15:29 pdurbin
I *think* the ADFS approach (link above) is your best bet for now. But please be advised that you may need some help from pameyer (who got it working) or Julio: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2019-02-27#i_87358
15:30 pdurbin
If memory serves, donsizemore got ADFS working with Dataverse too.
15:30 humberto
linky: thanks then im started in this way. See you soon.
15:32 pdurbin
heh, sounds good
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17:21 pameyer
for future reference / irc-bot ; there was no attribute mapping needed for "Shib-Identity-Provider" with ADFS on that system
18:29 pdurbin
pameyer: huh. ok. thanks
18:30 * pdurbin
gives iqlogbot a treat
18:48 pdurbin
pameyer: "interactive figures" at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2214#issuecomment-468389148 reminds me of the 3D model you can drag around a browser at https://data.sbgrid.org/visualize/3TS2/ for example.
19:11 pameyer
pdurbin: I'll take a look; messing with certs now
19:36 pameyer
pdurbin: that comment has me thinking more "let dataverse host arbritrary javascript for an interactive viewer" than the structure visualizers
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20:11 pdurbin
pameyer: but isn't the structure visualizer arbitrary javascript from the Datavese perspective? Ideally, you'd still have your visualizer, right? Aren't you going to miss it once you've switched to Dataverse?
20:12 pameyer
visualizer is closer to an external tool - it references metadata from the dataset, but the code that gets executed isn't part of the dataset (and isn't user editable)
20:13 pdurbin
hmm, interesting
20:13 pdurbin
if i knew that I forgot
20:14 pameyer
I'm pretty sure I stuck the visualizer in the reprocessing page; but might be remembering wrong
20:15 pameyer
it sounded to me like that comment wanted the user to be able to provide the code doing the interactive bits. I might be mis-interpreting it though
20:18 pdurbin
I don't see a reprocessing page. Is it live in your installation?
20:18 pameyer
_should_ be - will check later
20:19 pameyer
that's what the ugly fork hack for dataset-level explore was for
20:25 pdurbin
ok, thanks
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