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drew-jhu
@pdurbin are you available to discuss the reindexing issue (https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5575)?
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pdurbin
drew-jhu: hi! yes!
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drew-jhu
hi, pdurbin: welcome back
15:43
drew-jhu
i have a de-identified backup of our database that reliably has the reindexing issue in the same 24 datasets. i can share it with you so you can reproduce and troubleshoot the problem
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drew-jhu
however, since it is a copy of our production data & contains some not-yet public datasets, we have a few requests regarding its use...
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drew-jhu
can you a) limit its use to developer &/or non-public machines b) distribute it securely between those developers who need access to it in order to work on the problem, & c) delete all copies when you are done working on the issue?
15:48
pdurbin
These are good questions to ask support dataverse.org. Do you mind creating a ticket? Also, do you have a script to de-identify the database backup or was it a manual effort?
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drew-jhu
i used two scripts that i'm managing with the ansible playbooks we use to maintain our dataverse: https://github.com/dheles/dataverse-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/queries/deidentify_db.sql.j2 and https://github.com/dheles/dataverse-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/queries/clear_nonessential_data.sql.j2 I added them to the google doc referenced in https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4169 , but I don't appear to havve the permissions necess
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drew-jhu
if there were a github repo for such scripts, i'd be happy to PR then into it
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pdurbin
sounds like what donsizemore wants. I forget what were were going to call that repo
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pdurbin
drew-jhu: would it make sense to contribute those scripts to https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible ?
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pdurbin
I just accepted the addition to the google doc. Thanks!
15:56
drew-jhu
i think that either a dedicated repo or a section of https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse might be more useful. that way non-ansible users would be more likely to find, use & update them
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drew-jhu
they will def require updating as the db structure changes
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pdurbin
drew-jhu: how about adding them to the Admin Guide?
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pdurbin
maybe under http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.13/admin/backups.html ?
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pdurbin
Or a new page.
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drew-jhu
personally, as a dev, i think i'd find a github repo more useful than embedding them in docs, but that's the community's call. i do note that the issue that led the google doc was created in 2017 and had the (yet-to-be-realized, AFAIK) ambition of putting the queries in the admin guide
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pdurbin
Oh, well, the docs are in the main git repo. Under "docs".
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pdurbin
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/v4.13/doc/sphinx-guides/source/admin/backups.rst
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pdurbin
scripts and such would go in https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/tree/v4.13/doc/sphinx-guides/source/_static/admin
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drew-jhu
i guess i meant a dedicated or bare repo, so that the queries didn't have to be embedded in markup
16:02
pdurbin
They wouldn't have to be. I would make them downloadable. Let me find an example.
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pdurbin
like how "ec2-create-instance.sh" is a link at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.13/developers/deployment.html
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drew-jhu
at any rate, if you make a place for them, i'll submit mine to go along with the others (that google doc already has lots of them for a variety of purposes)
16:04
pdurbin
You don't like the place I'm suggesting? :)
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drew-jhu
ok, so you would like them to be links added to a "De-identification" subsection of the Backups page of the guide: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.13/admin/backups.html - and not in another repo alongside the other queries from the big google doc of useful queries, correct?
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pdurbin
Yes. That's my preference. But I'm happy to create a new repo under IQSS if that's better. What would you call it? dataverse-contrib?
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drew-jhu
that might be useful for containing more then just queries, but IDK. happy to leave that decision to y'all.
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drew-jhu
regarding the issue you'd like created for the handling of the db backup... i'm happy to create it, but i'm not sure i know how.
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drew-jhu
do you mean a github issue, an email to support dataverse.org, or something else?
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pdurbin
I mean a ticket, which you'd create by emailing support dataverse.org . For contributing the scripts, for now if you make a pull request to add them to doc/sphinx-guides/source/_static/admin I'm happy to link them up from that backups page for you.
16:15
pdurbin
(Ideally an issue and a pull request but just a pull request is fine too.)
16:15
drew-jhu
roger. wilco on both
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pdurbin
thank you!
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pdurbin
sorry this is so hard
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drew-jhu
NP. HTH
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pdurbin
Once you have a URL for your ticket please add it in a comment to https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/5575
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drew-jhu
wilco
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pdurbin
you're making me think of spacequest :)
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drew-jhu
is there a preferred format for the subject line of ticket-creating emails to support dataverse.org?
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drew-jhu
idk spacequest, i'm afraid
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pdurbin
it's an old sierra game. I think the first was king's quest.
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pdurbin
no preferred format... maybe something like "database dump to help fix issue 5575"
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drew-jhu
ah. rt. i rem the cover. the guy in the spacesuit brandishing a mop in an action pose. necer played it, so i didn't realize his name was Roger Wilco. (thx, wikipedia)
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pdurbin
put it on your bucket list ;)
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drew-jhu
indeed. those games were always too frustrating for me to actually finish, but def fun for a while
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pdurbin
my brother and I had to buy the hint book. it came with a magic marker to reveal the hidden answers
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pdurbin
it was like 15 bucks
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drew-jhu
pre-internet artifact. could probably auction it off to a collector and get your money back
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pdurbin
heh, I've been trying to marie kondo everything though
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pdurbin
donsizemore: Mike just stopped by to talk about sample data. He appreciated that you added something to the readme. :)
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donsizemore
@pdurbin i pecked away at what i could in your absence!
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donsizemore
p.s. have you looked at jamie's server.log yet?
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pdurbin
I was just looking at it.
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donsizemore
<p>Problem accessing /solr/collection1/update. Reason: <pre> Server Error</pre></p><h3>Caused by:</h3><pre>java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class sun.nio.fs.UnixCopyFile
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pdurbin
yeah
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pdurbin
seems like solr trouble, generally
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pdurbin
I suggested reinstalling Solr. What do you think it is?
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donsizemore
@pdurbin i think reinstalling solr is an excellent suggestion
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pdurbin
:)
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donsizemore
@pdurbin you're committing code to move datasets through the UI!
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donsizemore
@pdurbin you will be Thu-Mai and Mandy's hero
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pdurbin
no, no, thank Paul Boon from DANS
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pdurbin
hmm. ERROR: Permission to PaulBoon/dataverse.git denied to pdurbin.
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pdurbin
donsizemore: I've been saying that a UI to move datasets is going to be a very popular feature.
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pdurbin
I'm very thankful to Paul for implementing it.
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pdurbin
I think I said something like, "This will be a wildly popular feature."
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