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07:36 juancorr joined #dataverse
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08:13 poikilotherm
pdurbin: HELP! Can you send me the IQSS AWS account id/alias? I have my credentials, but I missed to note down the account :-(
09:20 stefankasberger joined #dataverse
09:33 pdurbin
poikilotherm: do you mean https://035157061013.signin.aws.amazon.com/console ?
10:03 poikilotherm
Thx man!
10:04 pdurbin
sure
10:04 poikilotherm
Finally :-D
10:04 poikilotherm
I can test if my code works with AWS clusters ;-)
10:04 pdurbin
poikilotherm: still no takers on the map. :( Do you mind making a pull request?
10:05 poikilotherm
I can do that, sure.
10:05 poikilotherm
Not now, but maybe this evening :-)
10:05 pdurbin
thanks!!
10:08 poikilotherm
Ah DataverseTV looks nice
10:08 pdurbin
the crazy ideas keep coming
10:09 poikilotherm
If I were a native speaker, I'd do a screencast on dataverse-kubernetes
10:11 pdurbin
Do it, do it, your English is fine.
10:12 * poikilotherm
blushes
10:12 poikilotherm
Writing is one thing, speaking is a different story...
10:12 poikilotherm
We'll see
10:13 poikilotherm
pdurbin: before disturbing Slava: it's correct that the lights are on in the frankfurt zone cluster?
10:14 poikilotherm
I'm not sure if it adds to your bill, as its t2.small VMs
10:17 pdurbin
At https://eu-central-1.console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/home?region=eu-central-1#Instances:sort=instanceId I see three t2.small EC2 instances started on Sep 17. Maybe by stefankasberger ?
10:17 pdurbin
poikilotherm: or did you start them?
10:17 poikilotherm
Oh did he start those
10:17 poikilotherm
Ok
10:18 poikilotherm
I didn't see the account
10:18 poikilotherm
just dans.dataverse.tk
10:18 poikilotherm
Nope, I did not start those
10:18 pdurbin
Will you be starting EC2 instances? Or something else?
10:18 poikilotherm
Just wanted to be sure that's ok and it doesn't blow up your bill ;-)
10:18 poikilotherm
Yes, I will have a test cluster.
10:19 poikilotherm
But I will destroy it afterwards
10:19 poikilotherm
Don't pay more than necessary
10:19 poikilotherm
For a future it might be a cool thing to create an ephemeral cluster for testing all the k8s stuff with Jenkins
10:19 poikilotherm
Jenkins offers some nice pipeline elements for this IIRC
10:24 pdurbin
cool
10:32 stefankasberger
@pdurbin: Are there any upgrade descriptions or war files to skip some releases and make bigger version jumps? am planing right now to go from 4.6.2 to 4.16 (22 upgrades).
10:36 poikilotherm
stefankasberger: is that little k8s cluster on AWS still in use?
10:40 pdurbin
stefankasberger: obviously, you should do this on a test server first but I *think* it's safe to only do the incremental upgrades until you get to the point where we added Flyway and then you can jump to the latest. Fingers crossed. :)
10:42 stefankasberger
whats flyway, and do you know, when it was added?
10:43 pdurbin
We mention flyway at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.17/installation/upgrading.html
10:44 pdurbin
stefankasberger: also, please see the note about flyway at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/releases/tag/v4.12
10:45 pdurbin
oh yeah, and I forgot about this: "As an alternative, we offer an EXPERIMENTAL database upgrade method allowing users to skip over a number of releases"
10:46 pdurbin
hard to keep all this stuff in your head
11:04 stefankasberger
thanks!
11:07 poikilotherm
stefankasberger: as Phil mentioned earlier, it looks like you started a k8s cluster on IQSS AWS in September. is this still in use or is it ok to shutdown and delete?
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11:45 pdurbin
juancorr: can you please take a look at https://github.com/QualitativeDataRepository/dataverse-previewers/pull/25 ?
12:03 juancorr
pdurbin. sorry because I have been silet this days. I have been tried to change the iframe for ajax and I have found problems (not solved yet) to embed external html in Glassfish
12:04 juancorr
The ^M are encoding problems. I will delete them and try the solution in Firefox.
12:16 pdurbin
juancorr: thanks!
12:16 pdurbin
I hope you don't see the spinner in Firefox. Or... I hope you *do* see the spinner in Firefox and you tell me how to fix it. :)
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12:19 donsizemore
@pdurbin i meant that dataverse reserved the identifier within dataverse =)
12:24 pdurbin
donsizemore: mostly I just wanted to link to that open github issue. Thanks for jumping in! Also, do you want to cancel the meeting this afternoon?
12:24 donsizemore
@pdurbin dat fine
12:24 pdurbin
sweet
12:24 pdurbin
stefankasberger: no jenkins meeting today
12:25 pdurbin
Speaking of Jenkins, donsizemore and poikilotherm and stefankasberger might be interested in this: https://github.com/qdr-jenkins
12:26 donsizemore
@pdurbin I hope that menacing avatar isn't an admin of any repo!
12:26 poikilotherm
LOL
12:27 poikilotherm
Who's that guy?
12:27 poikilotherm
qdr-jenkins, not the evil jenkins
12:27 donsizemore
Jim Myers
12:28 poikilotherm
:-)
12:28 poikilotherm
Nice!
12:28 poikilotherm
I'm fighting with Jenkins to eat my Dockerfile for Sphinx
12:40 Jim14 joined #dataverse
12:41 Jim14
Sadly I am not qdr-jenkins, though it would be nice for Halloween!
12:41 poikilotherm
Oh did someone summon qqmeyers?
12:42 pdurbin
yeah, I did
12:42 * poikilotherm
waves at pdurbin and Jim14
12:42 Jim14
Your wish is , well, just your wish...
12:43 pdurbin
Jim14: you might be interested in https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-jenkins/pull/18
12:43 pdurbin
donsizemore: can you please remind of the status of that pull request? Should I move it back to code review?
12:44 donsizemore
@pdurbin that's what i was working on, on friday. almost done, but some design decisions
12:44 donsizemore
@pdurbin if you wanna zoom or g-chat or slack at some point today i'd love to touch base with you on about 3 things before i submit another PR
12:44 donsizemore
@pdurbin i have an 0930 but am otherwise free
12:45 Jim14
Thanks. In general I'm watching for this sort of thing but it is Seba O. on our team who handles all the build/test/deploy/monitoring aspects, so I mostly pass things on.
12:47 pdurbin
donsizemore: sure! If we're talking Jenkins, should we invite poikilotherm and stefankasberger and Jim14?
12:53 donsizemore
@pdurbin well sure, but one of the items on my list was reviewing and prioritizing the IQSS issues that I own
12:55 pdurbin
donsizemore: would it be easy for you to email me a list of all those issues assigned to you? Just the links is fine, if it's easy.
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13:21 dataverse-user
Good morning all I'm just starting with Dataverse and I'd like to know if it's possible to force Dataverse to not translate the words and leave it in English only? thank you very much
13:33 pdurbin
dataverse-user: hi! How did you install Dataverse? With dataverse-ansible? dataverse-docker? dataverse-kubernetes? By hand? :)
13:34 poikilotherm
pdurbin: shouldn't we call it "dataverse-installer"?
13:34 poikilotherm
Maybe it even deserves its own repo :-D
13:35 pdurbin
may a thousand repos bloom
13:36 poikilotherm
At least it would be consequent - move all that stuff from the main dataverse repo to more specific things
13:36 poikilotherm
If you don't use it, it only bloats. Like when I send dataverse to the docker context, lots of stuff is sent, which is not relevant at all
13:41 dataverse-user
Thank you for your reply :). With docker
13:42 dataverse-user
I have version 4.11 of dataverse
13:44 pdurbin
Interesting. That version is a bit old. Have you considered trying https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes ? It's maintained by poikilotherm and he recently upgraded it to Dataverse 4.16.
13:45 poikilotherm
Or you could try with https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-docker
13:45 pdurbin
dataverse-user: or you could try https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible if you'd like Dataverse 4.17. I used dataverse-ansible on AWS EC2 instances running CentOS 7. I've never used it with Docker.
13:47 dataverse-user
Thank you for your advice. So it is imperative to update to have only one language?
13:52 pdurbin
dataverse-user: well, not necessarily. Let me go look at the 4.11 docs.
13:52 dataverse-user
Ok thank you :)
13:53 pdurbin
dataverse-user: I'm pretty sure if you delete the dataverse.lang.directory JVM option, your installation will switch to only English. Please see http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.11/installation/config.html#dataverse-lang-directory
13:56 dataverse-user
Okay, I'll try this. Thanks a lot for your help :)
14:01 pdurbin
sure!
14:01 pdurbin
dataverse-user: also, we can show you how to change your "nick" in this channel, if you want. :)
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14:04 PetitLapin
Hahha its my nieuw nick
14:16 poikilotherm
pdurbin can we create a mail alias at IQSS for DataverseBot?
14:16 poikilotherm
When we start letting that guy push changes, it would be cool to use proper emails, not my private one ;-)
14:17 Venki joined #dataverse
14:17 Venki
Hello @pdurbin
14:18 poikilotherm
pdurbin: never mind. I just use the private one from github
14:20 Venki
Doi
14:20 Venki
e
14:21 pdurbin
Venki: hi! Nice to see you here.
14:21 Venki
Thank you Phil
14:21 poikilotherm
pdurbin donsizemore: I almost have it. My fight with Jenkins is almost over. https://i.imgur.com/we9lXEM.png
14:22 Venki
need your help
14:23 Venki
i was trying to upload citation.tsv file for v4.16 and getting 500 Glassfish error
14:25 Venki
i have tried both —-data-binary and —upload-file options
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14:35 pdurbin
shoot, he's gone
14:36 pdurbin
welcome PetitLapin
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14:50 juancorr
Hello @pdurbin I have commented https://github.com/QualitativeDataRepository/dataverse-previewers/pull/25 . It works in my tests with ^M and without ^M
14:50 YSF
@pdurbin It is necessary to restart glassfish when deleting dataverse.lang.directory?
14:51 pdurbin
YSF: yeah, I think you need to restart Glassfish
14:55 donsizemore joined #dataverse
14:57 pdurbin
juancorr: thanks! Awesome that you don't get the spinner in Firefox. I'm not sure what's going on with my Firefox.
14:59 juancorr
I think that ^M could be removed anyway. Has you tried the link to our test server and you don not see the pdf there?
15:01 pdurbin
Oh! You put a link to your test server in there? Let me take another look.
15:02 pdurbin
juancorr: I see what you mean. No spinner in my Firefox when I go to http://oaimadrono.uned.es:8080/file.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.21950/VJADUC/SXOIDE . Thanks! So maybe it *WAS* the ^M characters?!? I think you fixed it. :)
15:07 juancorr
If have fixed it, but now I am using the original file (with ^M).
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15:39 pdurbin
donsizemore: hi! Do you have time now?
15:39 pdurbin
juancorr: let's see what qqmyers has to say :)
15:40 pdurbin
If anybody sees Venki please ask him for the full curl command he tried.
15:41 pdurbin
donsizemore: I have a meeting at 2pm but I have some time now. And I need some lunch. :)
15:42 pdurbin
dataverse-user: did removing that JVM option fix it?
15:43 pdurbin
donsizemore: look at all these Dataverse heavy hitters: https://twitter.com/PhilippConzett/status/1187022816476053506
15:43 pdurbin
stefankasberger: including our buddy Slava ^^
15:51 pdurbin
donsizemore: I think I'm going to go get some lunch but maybe we can talk quick after (but before 2pm). Or after 3pm.
16:43 stefankasberger
What is qdr-jenkins?
16:50 donsizemore
@stefankasberger I think it's QDR's GitHub service account (Jenkins sometimes wants one)
16:51 donsizemore
@pdurbin just now back from lunch and happy to chat with @stefankasberger
17:00 stefankasberger
thanks, but I do not have time.
17:01 stefankasberger
Have a huge load of work in front of me. 22 upgrades and setup several VMs (jenkins, selenium, n dataverse instances).
17:01 stefankasberger
Unfortunately. Would be great to hear and learn more from you guys.
17:07 pdurbin
donsizemore: back! Should we do a Google Hangout? Or whatever they call it these days. I'll use whatever.
17:09 donsizemore
unc has a zoom license if you have that client
17:10 pdurbin
I do. Let me go move to a room where I won't disturb my office mates.
17:11 donsizemore
yeah, matt said y'all have 3-4 people to a room?!?
17:14 pdurbin
He goes my Matt now? Yeah, he used to be in my office. Erik has his seat now. And Steve is in there too.
17:15 pdurbin
I say there because I'm in the other room now and ready for the Zoom link. :)
17:27 donsizemore
https://github.com/OdumInstitute/dataverse/tree/develop/scripts/jenkins
19:03 pdurbin
donsizemore: check out Sherry!!! https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-installations/pull/15
19:26 pdurbin
sending positive vibes her way: https://twitter.com/philipdurbin/status/1187087614081261569
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19:59 donsizemore
@pdurbin closing my PR - i make-a-da-boo-boo
20:00 pdurbin
donsizemore: thanks, I was wondering about all those extra commits.
20:00 pdurbin
I know about git squash but I haven't tried it yet.
20:00 pdurbin
poikilotherm: you're off the hook for updating the map
20:00 donsizemore
@pdurbin oh, that was just noise. what i get for pulling the stuff into develop
20:01 pdurbin
yeah
20:02 donsizemore
@pdurbin the boo-boo was in the API test suite part. need to review some docs
20:03 pdurbin
oh
20:03 poikilotherm
Hey guys :-) What's up?
20:04 poikilotherm
Looks like things are on a roll in Norway these days
20:04 pdurbin
poikilotherm: I just told Julian that you may or may not be working on the ability to spin up Dataverse with arbitrary metadata blocks and he loves the idea.
20:04 poikilotherm
Oh nice :-)
20:05 poikilotherm
Yeah, that's definitly on my short list, as its inline with our short term goals
20:05 pdurbin
Should I go look at your "in focus" column?
20:05 poikilotherm
You'd better don't
20:05 poikilotherm
I've been procrastinating the whole week
20:05 poikilotherm
I *should* work on my talk for Friday
20:06 poikilotherm
Instead I work on personas and docs :-D
20:06 pdurbin
:)
20:06 poikilotherm
Have a lame excuse for personas: want to upgrade our installation for demo time on Friday ;-)
20:10 pdurbin
cool
20:12 poikilotherm
Yeah, procrastinating is cool :-D
20:12 poikilotherm
It has been quite productive
20:12 poikilotherm
Learned a lot about Jenkins pipeline today
20:15 poikilotherm
BTW pdurbin have you seen the multiline review/code comment feature on Github?
20:16 poikilotherm
It's quite new, but I had to think about it the other day when you added a comment to the Azure Oauth2 PR
20:17 pdurbin
ah, yes, I forgot to use it
20:18 poikilotherm
No worries
20:18 pdurbin
Are you reviewing that pull request?
20:19 poikilotherm
Hmm. I can work on my talk. Or do a review. Hmmmmm
20:19 poikilotherm
Ok, I'll do the review :-D
20:19 pdurbin
That's the spirit.
20:23 pdurbin
I'm looking too.
20:24 poikilotherm
I really scratch my head about the changes to .gitignore and that Architecture png
20:25 pdurbin
yeah
20:31 pdurbin
ok, I added a review
20:32 poikilotherm
Hmm it's still showing acceppted for your review status...
20:37 pdurbin
yeah, I seem unable to change it, oh well
21:15 pdurbin
I think I'm done leaving feedback.
21:16 pdurbin
poikilotherm: and there's nothing in QA. I think we should move it over.
21:19 poikilotherm
Nonono
21:20 poikilotherm
Let me please finish my review
21:20 poikilotherm
I'm on it.
21:20 pdurbin
ok, I'm heading home
21:21 poikilotherm
Ok cu :-)
21:21 poikilotherm
My review is a bit longer ;-)
22:00 pdurbin
Is or will be? I don't see it yet. :)
22:00 poikilotherm
I am really digging into this
22:01 poikilotherm
Lots of technical stuff needs to be addressed
22:01 pdurbin
ah, ok
22:01 poikilotherm
And you know me - if I do it, I do it right :-D
22:01 pdurbin
very German of you
22:03 poikilotherm
:-D
22:03 poikilotherm
DNA
22:03 poikilotherm
Can't avoid it
22:03 poikilotherm
Welcome to Bertuch Engineering Service
22:04 pdurbin
Just don't go too hard on new contributors, please. :)
22:05 poikilotherm
Sure
22:33 poikilotherm
Phew. Done. https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6192#pullrequestreview-306173022
22:35 pdurbin
look at all those checkboxes
22:36 poikilotherm
Hihihi
22:36 pdurbin
Microsoft Azure AD is a thing?
22:37 poikilotherm
That the official product name
22:37 pdurbin
Azure Active Directory
22:37 pdurbin
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/active-directory/
22:37 poikilotherm
Yeah. I asked to provide a link to that in the comments ;-)
22:37 pdurbin
And that's what Dataverse will support when this pull request is merged?
22:38 poikilotherm
Ye
22:38 poikilotherm
+s
22:38 pdurbin
ok
22:38 pdurbin
Is it popular?
22:38 poikilotherm
I have no idea :-D
22:38 poikilotherm
AFAIK not in Germany
22:38 pdurbin
"help protect your users from 99.9 percent of cybersecurity attacks"
22:38 pdurbin
WOW, 99.9
22:38 poikilotherm
Hmm I did not think about adding more information on the benefit parts of Azure AD
22:39 * pdurbin
puts his black hat on
22:39 poikilotherm
You can actually connect your local AD to the cloud
22:39 poikilotherm
But obviously you will have to negotiate that with IT
22:39 poikilotherm
Good luck :-D
22:41 pdurbin
I only added one comment on your comments.
22:42 poikilotherm
When I would try to hook up our AD with the cloud, that would be IT: https://i.imgur.com/HQymg5d.gif
22:42 pdurbin
Should I say, "Don't mind poikilotherm. He gets a little excited."? :)
22:42 poikilotherm
(I do hope you know the IT crowd series)
22:43 pdurbin
not so well, unfortunately, but I've heard of the IT crowd
22:44 pdurbin
Right now I'm hacking on a side project for my kids' school. I think I have about a half an hour before my family descends upon me.
22:44 poikilotherm
:-D
22:46 pdurbin
The original plan was for me to demo it at the school at the Halloween party on Friday night. They got us a table and everything.
22:48 poikilotherm
Oh, that's on a close schedule
22:49 pdurbin
At the kickoff meeting they wanted it that day. Or a few weeks prior. :)
22:51 pdurbin
We're using technologies I've only heard of such as DynamoDB.
22:56 poikilotherm
Yeah, I was wondering how you do the data storage
22:56 poikilotherm
So its JavaScript + RESTful backend?
22:56 pdurbin
yeah
22:56 pdurbin
jQuery
22:57 pdurbin
I'm pretty new to jquery.
22:57 pdurbin
I do like it better than JSF. :)
22:57 poikilotherm
It's a nice thing to code with. Although people tend to avoid it these days.
22:57 poikilotherm
I wonder if there is a standard for these kind of things
22:58 poikilotherm
So you don't have to use a framework
22:59 pdurbin
I'm not the architect (thank goodness). I'm letting my friend make all the technology choices.
23:00 poikilotherm
https://medium.com/@mattburgess/how-to-get-data-with-javascript-in-2018-f30ba04ad0da
23:00 poikilotherm
Looks like it's still a pain point these days
23:01 pdurbin
He has done some fantastic work. Sign up forms for the science fair, the craft fair. Huge time savers. This project is more... ambitious. :)
23:01 poikilotherm
:-D
23:01 poikilotherm
Often these side projects tend to be a playground to learn about new techs
23:01 pdurbin
He said it would be two days of work.
23:02 poikilotherm
Hihihi
23:02 poikilotherm
Programming projects tend to be more explosive than dynamite ;-)
23:02 pdurbin
yeah
23:02 poikilotherm
It looks actually pretty amazing
23:02 pdurbin
:)
23:03 poikilotherm
It would be a no-go here in EU due to GPDR ;-)
23:03 poikilotherm
Especially children are a very hot and dangerous topic
23:03 pdurbin
we considered aliases
23:03 pdurbin
nicks, handles
23:03 pdurbin
such as poikilotherm
23:03 poikilotherm
Ok, than that might be ok here, too
23:03 poikilotherm
:-)
23:04 pdurbin
poikilotherm the man of mystery
23:04 poikilotherm
?
23:04 poikilotherm
poikilotherm, ok. man, ok. mystery?
23:04 pdurbin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers:_International_Man_of_Mystery
23:08 pdurbin
Uh oh. The family is home. And I'm having trouble with DynamoDB. Bye!
23:08 poikilotherm
Cu!
