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Nick |
Message |
| 02:11 |
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JonathanNeal joined #dvn |
| 12:46 |
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pdurbin |
sivoais: "API2LOD ("Happy to LOD") is a tool that facilitates exposing the content of data API onto the Web as Linked Data." -- http://api2lod.appspot.com |
| 13:46 |
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pdurbin |
shauna: do you know someone named Erin? |
| 13:46 |
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pdurbin |
from http://mo-www.cfa.harvard.edu/MicroObservatory/ ? |
| 13:59 |
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pdurbin |
whelp, she just left |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
shauna: also, I really like this post: pycon 2014 follow up - Google Groups - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/openscienceframework/kNGi_Yfjl6M |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
"What other open science themed mailing lists/communication channels are out there" |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
"How we can allay peoples' fears about open science" |
| 14:00 |
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pdurbin |
interesting stuff. I forwarded it internally |
| 14:21 |
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sivoais |
nice, re: API2LOD. Too bad there's not enough docs. It looks like the actual implementations live here <https://github.com/cgueret/LinkedIDS/tree/master/server/IDSWrapper/src/uk/ac/ids/linker/impl> |
| 14:21 |
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pdurbin |
for now I made a card: https://trello.com/c/NEIgkS3i/10-use-api2lod-http-api2lod-appspot-com-to-expose-data-as-linked-data |
| 14:21 |
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sivoais |
the linking of a JSON response to RDF is actually not too hard |
| 14:23 |
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sivoais |
making the names fit into an ontology is a bit more difficult, but is really why you'd go to the effort of converting to the RDF model |
| 14:24 |
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sivoais |
this is probably not as necessary now that JSON-LD is gaining some ground <http://json-ld.org/> |
| 14:24 |
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sivoais |
but I have to go to class now :-) |
| 14:25 |
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pdurbin |
o/ |
| 14:51 |
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shauna |
pdurbin: I do know someone named Erin |
| 14:52 |
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shauna |
She and I took an 8 hour bus up to Pycon together :) |
| 14:52 |
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shauna |
Also, perhaps relevant: http://openhatch.mit.edu/ |
| 14:53 |
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shauna |
We are still looking for mentors if any dvn people want to introduce the project to students. :) |
| 15:00 |
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pdurbin |
(hint hint) |
| 15:00 |
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pdurbin |
shauna: she was very nice |
| 15:00 |
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shauna |
Yeah, she's great. Was she at dvn hq? |
| 15:00 |
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pdurbin |
hell yeah |
| 15:01 |
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shauna |
Also, re that OSF thread - I hope people reply. That was the medium we agreed to use for further discussion but I don't see any new joins. It would have been easier to agree on a Numfocus list because I would have joined that & could have made the OSF people join too. |
| 15:03 |
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pdurbin |
shauna: I think skay has a #hackingscience channel. I offered to log it along side this one. |
| 15:05 |
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shauna |
I joined it. Lonely place! |
| 15:05 |
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pdurbin |
T-T |
| 15:06 |
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shauna |
Also skay and I already hang out by ourselves in #openscienceframework |
| 15:06 |
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pdurbin |
oh |
| 15:06 |
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shauna |
But maybe that's a place for discussion |
| 15:06 |
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shauna |
I think Mozilla Science Labs is thinking of starting up an IRC channel |
| 15:07 |
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pdurbin |
oh yeah. that thing |
| 15:07 |
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pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky mozilla science labs |
| 15:07 |
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searchbot |
pdurbin: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ScienceLab |
| 15:07 |
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pdurbin |
Mozilla Science Lab | Helping to make the web work for science. - http://mozillascience.org |
| 15:09 |
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shauna |
They're the umbrella org for Software Carpentry |
| 15:11 |
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| 15:16 |
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pdurbin |
ah |
| 16:24 |
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pdurbin |
hmm. Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ |
| 16:25 |
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pdurbin |
"DCAT is an RDF vocabulary designed to facilitate interoperability between data catalogs published on the Web" |
| 16:51 |
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skay |
shauna: no new sign ups? |
| 16:53 |
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shauna |
skay: not that I can see |
| 16:53 |
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* shauna |
sighs |
| 16:54 |
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skay |
I was hoping for better. I thinking asking people to join the numfocus list was a good idea |
| 16:59 |
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skay |
more broad |
| 17:06 |
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pdurbin |
big tent |
| 17:08 |
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shauna |
I mean, we can go ahead and do that and hope that the people we spoke to at PyCon are on it. |
| 17:08 |
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shauna |
It's not clear to me that numfocus is a significantly bigger tent. |
| 17:11 |
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skay |
perhaps not |
| 17:12 |
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skay |
pdurbin: we met joeyh's friend who does neurodebian |
| 17:12 |
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skay |
in person, he was there |
| 17:12 |
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skay |
I was very excited, and I had hoped maybe to find people to talk about interoperability with data packages, versioning, etc. |
| 17:13 |
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skay |
we didn't talk much on that though. people were more in to policy and cultural changes required |
| 17:18 |
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pdurbin |
searchbot: lucky neurodebian |
| 17:18 |
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searchbot |
pdurbin: http://neuro.debian.net/ |
| 17:19 |
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* pdurbin |
looks at http://neuro.debian.net/about.html#the-team |
| 17:19 |
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skay |
not much talk on infrastructure happens on the osf list. |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
pdurbin: Yaroslav, remember? |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
he joined #dvn for a bit to chat |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
the other day |
| 17:29 |
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skay |
and we emailed a little bit about git-annex |
| 17:31 |
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skay |
out to lunch now |
| 17:38 |
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* pdurbin |
does remember |
| 20:24 |
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yoh joined #dvn |
| 20:36 |
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pdurbin |
hmm. [DDI-users] Update on DDI Moving Forward - http://lists.icpsr.umich.edu/pipermail/ddi-users/2014-April/000830.html |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
yoh: oh hey |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
welcome back :) |
| 20:37 |
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pdurbin |
gotta run. new nephew to meet this weekend! https://twitter.com/dicebourbon/status/419597557199671296 |
| 20:55 |
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JonathanNeal |
congrats pdurbin ! |
| 21:21 |
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pdurbin |
JonathanNeal: thanks :) |
| 21:46 |
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skay |
hi yoh |
| 22:25 |
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pdurbin |
yoh: nice list. Open Science Channels - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Icgoka0ePqQQKmulLsVLx2S-dSVqPO97Sd2evvM59ko/edit?usp=sharing |
| 22:33 |
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yoh |
skay: Hi skay ;) |
| 22:33 |
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yoh |
pdurbin: could be a useful start... we will see ;) |
| 22:35 |
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pdurbin |
seems a little neuroscience heavy |
| 22:35 |
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pdurbin |
but whatever :) |
| 22:35 |
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yoh |
pdurbin: ;-) because that is what I know -- please contribute the ones from your field -- that was the point ;) |
| 22:36 |
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pdurbin |
sure. I understand |
| 22:36 |
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pdurbin |
I feel the need to revisit the definition of "open science" |
| 22:37 |
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pdurbin |
there was a thread about this |
| 22:37 |
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yoh |
ah -- there is a difinition? ;) |
| 22:37 |
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pdurbin |
yep. one sec |
| 22:44 |
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pdurbin |
open science is "providing sufficiently complete methods and observations" according to http://centerforopenscience.org/about/ . The commit: https://github.com/CenterForOpenScience/centerforopenscience.org/commit/372505a60df2a64ae60b8c6d159b513e4f44b89c#diff-365e1177e12662fc5599bb808c94faa1R8 |
| 22:45 |
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pdurbin |
and they should know :) |
| 22:48 |
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pdurbin |
via https://groups.google.com/d/msg/openscienceframework/Wn4zslAhslc/8zcQJ9tpF34J |
| 23:00 |
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yoh |
I see lots of answers to "Why" and may be "how", but "providing sufficiently complete methods and observations" in itself is not sufficient ;) that was a not-very-enforced requirement for many scientific endeavors before as well |
| 23:00 |
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pdurbin |
:) |
| 23:01 |
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pdurbin |
anyway, it's tricky to define. good on them for trying |
| 23:02 |
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yoh |
concur! ;-) |
| 23:04 |
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pdurbin |
I'd probably just call it "real science" |
| 23:08 |
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pdurbin |
yoh: we are looking for feedback on domain-specific metadata. domains such as neuroscience: Metadata for Dataverse 4.0 and Beyond - Google Groups - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/dataverse-community/fBjW8VBHAPE |
| 23:22 |
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yoh |
uff... elephant in the room ;-) even within neuroscience it is non-trivial since there is many subfields (electrophys, neuroimaging with its own multitude of modalities etc). http://www.neuinfo.org/ is probably the tip of the iceberg trying to pull such information from various sources into a "single" structure |
| 23:23 |
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yoh |
then within neuroimaging we have e.g. ni-dash of INCF group (yours truly a part of somewhat) distilling meta-data to describe provenance of neuroimaging studies. This one could be the tip of that iceberg: http://datasharing.incf.org/ni/Extensible_Neuroimaging_Vocabulary_for_Data_Sharing |
| 23:24 |
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yoh |
let me actually share that post within the group -- more meta-data-inspired people might be able to contribute |
| 23:26 |
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pdurbin |
great. thanks |
| 23:26 |
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pdurbin |
yoh: what group? |
| 23:28 |
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yoh |
all those INCF-affilliatied groups I had in mind (where the post would go through ;) ) |
| 23:28 |
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pdurbin |
ah. ok |
