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09:24 Benjamin_Peuch
Hello pdurbin. Thanks for tagging Youssef and me in the pull request you opened a few days ago.
09:25 Benjamin_Peuch
To be perfectly honest I have wholly neglected the API functionalities of Dataverse up until now so I'm not sure what it's about.
09:25 Benjamin_Peuch
But I'm going to dive in the manual and study this closely.
09:27 Benjamin_Peuch
I understand that a whole lot of things can be done through APIs within DV so this is a bit overdue. Youssef has already delved into it though.
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11:24 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: sure, but to be honest, I forget which pull request you mean. :) Oh! But that reminds me! I *did* find a typo in the Dataverse Guides this week. I'd be happy to coach you through making a pull request (deleting a duplicate word in this case), if you want.
11:39 Benjamin_Peuch
With pleasure!
11:39 Benjamin_Peuch
(This pull request: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-installations/pull/47)
11:44 pdurbin
Oh, that one. It's funny, I just emailed Paul from DANS about that. I just helped him create a board. I don't know if you know Paul. Great guy. You should invite him over. :)
11:45 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: anyway, if you go to https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/blob/develop/doc/sphinx-guides/source/installation/config.rst and search for "to to" you should find the duplicate word. If you could click the pencil and delete one of the "to"'s and make a commit and then a pull request, I would appreciate it!
11:46 pdurbin
Here's the full line with the duplicate word: Non-superusers who are not "Admin" on the root dataverse will not be able to to do anything useful until the root dataverse has been published.
11:48 Benjamin_Peuch
Is that Paul Boon? I don't think I've met him yet.
11:48 Benjamin_Peuch
But if you know that he's going to attend FOSDEM, then I'll invite him directly, pdurbin.
11:48 Benjamin_Peuch
I've already written a general invitation I'm planning to send to Marion Wittenberg. Just awaiting publication of the announcement on our website.
11:49 Benjamin_Peuch
We're also going to reach out to AUSSDA and University catholique de Louvain (UCLouvain), a Belgian university which is currently looking into Dataverse.
11:50 Benjamin_Peuch
There, I just created the pull request, pdurbin.
11:55 pdurbin
Great! Marion gave a talk at Harvard. I'm not sure if she remembers me or not. And yes I remember some sort of conversation in here with someone from UCLouvain.
11:56 pdurbin
poikilotherm: do you remember the trick you used to get your pull request into code review? Back when you were a "read only" user like Benjamin_Peuch?
11:57 poikilotherm
Sure. Head to the IQSS project and add the PR as card to the Code Review column
11:57 pdurbin
Thanks!
11:58 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: can you please try that? Please go to https://github.com/orgs/IQSS/projects/2 and try to drag your pull request into "Code Review".
11:59 Benjamin_Peuch
pdurbin: I see the Code Review column but I can't find my pull request on this page.
12:00 pdurbin
Oh. On the right you have to click "Add cards"
12:00 Benjamin_Peuch
Should I add it as a note? Oh, okay.
12:00 Benjamin_Peuch
Ah, yes indeed!
12:00 Benjamin_Peuch
Done.
12:01 pdurbin
Perfect. Now can you please change the title to something like "typo in guides"?
12:01 Benjamin_Peuch
There you go.
12:02 pdurbin
Perfect. It will make much more sense at standup in a few hours. Thanks!!
12:03 pdurbin
I guess I could even approve it now.
12:03 pdurbin
Done. Now it's in QA.
12:04 Benjamin_Peuch
So if I get this correctly, this means that if we do a pull here once it's approved, the typo will be corrected our local files?
12:04 Benjamin_Peuch
#noob
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12:09 pdurbin
Well, that typo appears here: http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.18.1/installation/config.html#root-dataverse-permissions
12:10 pdurbin
So the next version (4.19 probably) will have your fix.
12:13 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: do you think that announcement will go out today? I'm thinking about sending two emails to follow up on that thread I mentioned. The first could just be to announce that my talk was accepted. In that email I could hint that there may be a fringe event in the works. In the second email (later this week) I could link to your announcement.
12:15 Benjamin_Peuch
Oh that would be great, pdurbin. I'm going to give our PR person a ring.
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12:16 pdurbin
Cool. That's what I'll do. Thanks!
12:16 Benjamin_Peuch
She must be out for lunch right now. I'll try again shortly and keep you posted at any rate.
12:17 pdurbin
Sounds fine. And you know stefankasberger is from AUSSDA, right?
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12:17 Benjamin_Peuch
Yes indeed. He's in the room with us right now, haha. :)
12:17 pdurbin
watching us
12:17 pdurbin
!
12:18 pdurbin
Kerru: hi! Anything we can help you with?
12:20 Benjamin_Peuch
You scared them off.
12:20 Benjamin_Peuch
Stefan is the person I was planning to send our invitation for AUSSDA directly to. ^^
12:21 Benjamin_Peuch
But I don't understand why a pull request is needed to fix a typo for documents which are hosted on http://datavere.org/ anyway?
12:21 Benjamin_Peuch
*at
12:23 pdurbin
whoops
12:23 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: does this help? http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.18.1/developers/documentation.html
12:25 Benjamin_Peuch
Oh, so this means that creating a pull request is a way for users (whether they belong to the IQSS developers' team or not) to notify you of things like typos etc?
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12:29 pdurbin
Yes! Exactly!
12:30 pdurbin
I have a long list of other stuff you could fix in the guides, if you're interested. :)
12:30 Benjamin_Peuch
Okay. Thanks for the explanation. :)
12:31 Benjamin_Peuch
Haha, you mean fixes that need to be formatted as pull requests?
12:31 Benjamin_Peuch
On another note: I want to add labels to issues on GitHub like "Feature:Metadata" to make it neat and clear.
12:31 Benjamin_Peuch
But I don't think I can. Maybe because this is the privilege of the repository administrators, like you?
12:34 pdurbin
That's right. You don't have the power to add labels. I'm happy to add some for you. Or you can see if poikilotherm has time if it's early in the day.
12:35 pdurbin
Oh good, the person I scared off just posted this: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/N1hzt_XVF8E/EjB0McI6BgAJ
12:35 poikilotherm
As far as I can see, not many people use the labels at IQSS :-/
12:35 poikilotherm
I'm happy to add any on request.
12:36 poikilotherm
pdurbin: I'd appreciate some automation for this like adding a "/kind label" thing found in some other projects
12:38 pdurbin
Do you mean pull requests against the "doc" directory would automatically get a label about documentation? I'm confused.
12:39 poikilotherm
Nah
12:39 poikilotherm
Let me checkout an example
12:39 pdurbin
ok
12:40 poikilotherm
The K8s guys built some real crazy stuff for this https://github.com/oracle/kubernetes-test-infra/blob/master/commands.md
12:41 Benjamin_Peuch
Then I'll pester poikilotherm until further notice. :p
12:41 Benjamin_Peuch
Brb
12:41 poikilotherm
If you add a "/kind label" text in your description or comment, the label get's assigned by the bot
12:42 pdurbin
oooh, I think I get it now
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12:45 Benjamin_Peuch
Hello poikilotherm. Could you add the label "Feature:Metadata" to this issue, please? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6492
12:46 poikilotherm
pdurbin: we could also create a bot that listens here and labels issues on command :-D
12:47 poikilotherm
We talk a lot about dev of DV here ;-)
12:47 Benjamin_Peuch
Thanks, poikilotherm!
12:47 poikilotherm
Benjamin_Peuch: done!
12:52 Benjamin_Peuch
There are several suggestions I would like to make regarding metadata in DV. Should I add them underneath one of these two issues?
12:52 Benjamin_Peuch
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/2297
12:52 Benjamin_Peuch
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6030
12:52 Benjamin_Peuch
Or should I create new issues then reference them in one of those two threads (or both)?
12:58 Benjamin_Peuch
Hello again, poikilotherm. Could you also add the label "Type: Suggestion" to that same issue please? https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6492
12:59 poikilotherm
Done...
13:00 Benjamin_Peuch
Thanks a lot!
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13:58 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: ok, I just posted this announcing my talk and hinting at the fringe event: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/dataverse-community/Vxylnd-gMBo/5tQ4UShABgAJ
13:59 pdurbin
I hope it looks ok. I'm heading to the gym and then the office.
14:42 Benjamin_Peuch
pdurbin: I just got word from our PR person. The link will be availabe tomorrow. :)
14:43 Benjamin_Peuch
Thank you for mentioning the fringe event in your post. Indeed they should stay tuned: I'll send you the link as soon as I have it.
16:00 Benjamin_Peuch
pdurbin: I sent you some info through PMs, not sure you've seen it yet.
16:00 pdurbin
Benjamin_Peuch: sorry, just getting out of a meeting.
16:03 pdurbin
I'm glad you're ok with the email I sent. Mostly I just wanted to get the word out about my talk (and will probably tweet about it too). Now there's no time pressure from me (sorry!) about announcing the fringe event. :)
16:04 Benjamin_Peuch
pdurbin: Just wanted to make sure. :) Sorry for being insistent.
16:05 Benjamin_Peuch
Haha, since I'm the one organizing the event, I should care for it.
16:36 pdurbin
:)
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20:13 poikilotherm
pdurbin thanks for cross linking the issue about the docroot.
20:13 poikilotherm
IIRC I wrote sth about it in the refactored guide...
20:14 pdurbin
Oh!
20:15 poikilotherm
https://dataverse-k8s.readthedocs.io/en/latest/day1/storage.html
20:15 pdurbin
"Use a ReadWriteMany type volume when using a multi-instance deployment."
20:16 poikilotherm
It is not much, but actually reflects my opinion: sync or use shared fs. Don't do it in Dataverse unless you use some object store.
20:16 poikilotherm
Beware, that's from /data
20:17 poikilotherm
It's /docroot you are looking for ;-)
20:17 pdurbin
yeah
20:17 pdurbin
I'm going to post a screenshot. It's easier.
20:18 poikilotherm
Then please also post a screenshot of the image doc ;-)
20:18 poikilotherm
https://dataverse-k8s.readthedocs.io/en/latest/images/dataverse-k8s.html#important-directories
20:21 pdurbin
I'm not sure why the arrows I'm adding are comically large but whatever, I'm rolling with them.
20:23 pdurbin
Done: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/6491#issuecomment-572241044
20:27 poikilotherm
And I still believe we should talk about it... If Dataverse would offer to use an object store for all of this, that would be much easier than setting up shared filesystems, etc. See also my last sentence in https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/65#issuecomment-502104473
20:28 poikilotherm
Of course I understand that you guys preferred using the docroot functions of Glassfish, which is perfectly fine. It's somewhat like Django with their static assets directory
20:29 pdurbin
I just want anything that works. :)
20:29 poikilotherm
Both arguments for both ways.
20:29 poikilotherm
Ah. s/Both/Good/
20:30 poikilotherm
Heh. Right here I'm totally with you. Need to get stuff out of the door...
20:30 pdurbin
Aren't you launching this month? :)
20:30 poikilotherm
I really want Jülich DATA to be nr 53 by the end of January
20:30 pdurbin
54
20:31 poikilotherm
Oh Jesus
20:31 pdurbin
Oh, wait. Huh.
20:31 pdurbin
Oh, I see.
20:31 pdurbin
The new map just made it to https://dataverse.org
20:31 pdurbin
But the old map has 53 on it.
20:32 pdurbin
Once we work on https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-installations/issues/42 the new map will have 53.
20:32 poikilotherm
2^8 would also be a nice number
20:32 pdurbin
:)
20:40 pdurbin
xarthisius: I'm so excited about the two new videos about Whole Tale integration with Dataverse that I blogged about them: http://blog.greptilian.com/2020/01/07/the-power-of-video-demos/
20:40 poikilotherm
Great :-)
20:40 poikilotherm
https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6484#issuecomment-572246772
20:41 poikilotherm
Man I'll switch from mobile to laptop. Thx to Matrix easy peasy...
20:42 xarthisius
pdurbin: I saw it :)
20:43 pdurbin
xarthisius: next comes the tweet :)
20:46 poikilotherm
Nice demos :-)
20:48 pdurbin
AREN'T THEY?!?
20:49 poikilotherm
Oh BTW pdurbin today my new laptop arrived. Finally, I have a good spot to put one of those lovely Dataverse sticker you nice guys send me last year :-)
20:49 poikilotherm
s/send/sent/
20:49 pdurbin
Nice. You *could* have waited for my FOSDEM talk. I plan to bring some. :)
20:51 poikilotherm
:-
20:51 poikilotherm
:-D
21:46 pdurbin
donsizemore: I'm heading out so no rush but I'm wondering if dataverse-ansible supports S3. Here's some context: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/6490#pullrequestreview-340153551
21:46 pdurbin
poikilotherm: same question but for dataverse-kubernetes :)
21:46 pdurbin
lots going on in that pull request
21:47 pdurbin
the times they are a-changin
21:47 poikilotherm
I do.
21:47 poikilotherm
At least configuring
21:47 poikilotherm
Using it for our instance ;-)
21:48 pdurbin
nice, with minio?
21:59 poikilotherm
Aye :-)
21:59 poikilotherm
That's why I added the support :-D
22:01 donsizemore
@pdurbin just a config option to be added in
22:01 pdurbin
poikilotherm: and why you opened https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-kubernetes/issues/51
22:01 pdurbin
donsizemore: cool, I'll create an issue. Thanks.
22:04 pdurbin
donsizemore: just a stub for now: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible/issues/140
22:04 donsizemore
@pdurbin cool. so config options still up in the air?
22:04 pdurbin
Well, there's a lot going on in that pull request.
22:05 pdurbin
I don't even have my head around all of it.
22:05 pdurbin
To be continued. :)
22:05 pdurbin
Have a good night, all.
22:24 poikilotherm
Good night Phil :-)
